Decent performance today but something's missing. I guess it's finally time admit the fact that this Sagan can't win a stage like this.
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Velolover2 said:Sagan is still good but a bit too heavy for these finishes.
Matthews and GVA tend to have an edge on him. But "Retro Sagan" would have smoked them both.
tomorrow said:Velolover2 said:Sagan is still good but a bit too heavy for these finishes.
Matthews and GVA tend to have an edge on him. But "Retro Sagan" would have smoked them both.
Well, with Bling in thise form, the green might not be sewn up already and we get some battle for the green at least until the 3rd week. But Bling will have to follow sagan into every break, which I am not sure he can do day after day.
I think it makes it more likely that his Performance or lack thereof was to blame on weightloss due to illness/late effects of TdF-crash/whatever (not to Take anything away from Alas amazing Performance there) rather then Motivation/decline, which is of course a great sign. Although it ist a Bit frustrating, agreed.tobydawq said:His sprint today makes me so even more annoyed that he lost in Milan-Sanremo.
Gorecki said:I will just leave it here for posterity:
Little statistics for Peter Sagan
Tour De France
134 stages - 2012 to 2019 (5 stages so far)
120 stages in total excluding TTT or ITT
12 wins = 10%
44 podiums (TOP 3) = 36.6%
70 Top 10s = 58.3%
Top 10 in more than half of stages and on podium every 3rd stage. In TdF.
Phenomenal.
Life statistic
862 race days (-73 TTs)
113 wins = 14.3%
443 Top 10s = 56.1%
Top 10 in more than half of his race days in 9 seasons and still going...
One of a kind.
SKSemtex said:Nice stats above. Thanks for bringing.
Congrats to Peter. It looks that I have to stop watching cycling completely or at least live.
Anytime I am watching he is loosing. Yesterday I skipped he won. :lol:
It remains me my fanboyism experiences from autumn 2013-summer 2015 when I was traveling across all of Europe to see him live and to see hem losing. :sad: Firenze, MSR, Ronde, PR, TDF; Ponferrada.
I almost bought the ticket to Richmond. . He was quite lucky I did not go.
EDIT. He was even able to lose the sprint against Stibar in Nationals when I was there.
SKSemtex said:Nice stats above. Thanks for bringing.
Congrats to Peter. It looks that I have to stop watching cycling completely or at least live.
Anytime I am watching he is loosing. Yesterday I skipped he won. :lol:
It remains me my fanboyism experiences from autumn 2013-summer 2015 when I was traveling across all of Europe to see him live and to see hem losing. :sad: Firenze, MSR, Ronde, PR, TDF; Ponferrada.
I almost bought the ticket to Richmond. . He was quite lucky I did not go.
EDIT. He was even able to lose the sprint against Stibar in Nationals when I was there.
Gorecki said:
Keram said:Gorecki said:
It is not working for me. Is it his autograph session up the Tourmalet? :razz:
Its nice when pro riders do something special for the fans.Gorecki said:
tomorrow said:I wonder, if his finishes up the tourmalet and prat d'albi and the time he lost there were sign of a fatigue or he's just trying to save as much energy as possible for the coming stages and maybe to win in Paris, he doesn't have that in his palmares yet. He was slower then Groenewegen and other non climbing sprinters, so it's weird.
How is giving autograhps and doing wheelies sign of not being fatigued? Both requieres almost zero energy to do. Nobody said he was dying there.boneshaker said:tomorrow said:I wonder, if his finishes up the tourmalet and prat d'albi and the time he lost there were sign of a fatigue or he's just trying to save as much energy as possible for the coming stages and maybe to win in Paris, he doesn't have that in his palmares yet. He was slower then Groenewegen and other non climbing sprinters, so it's weird.
He is definitely trying to save energy. He aims for stages 16, 17 and 21. Moreover he may be expected to work for Buchmann/Konrad (recall his work for Kreuziger in 2016).
As he was giving autographs and doing wheelies on Tourmalet I do not think that he is totally spent.