- Aug 13, 2010
Don't be late Pedro said:
Race Radio said:What was it prior to working with Ferrari?
BigBoat said:5.95 watt/kg average over 1 hour is probably what the most talented rider in the world could do clean and also rested. Over 15 minutes in a rested state maybe 6.3 w/kg.
That final climb yesterday was more of a 60 minute effort though than a 15 based on Levi's comments.
Power file says Brajkovic was riding at 355 watts on the final climb, he weighs about 63 kg. His normalized power for the whole race was 266 though, or 75% of threshold. Os it would not have been possible to really go harder than FTP at that point. I mean in all serousness, as a cat 1 rider myself; go out there and do a 4 hour tempo ride and try to ride at FTP for longer than 15 minutes. Its impssible.
Someone here recently posted some numbers (With weight and VO2max among other things) measured on 4 (or 5) different occasions through the 90's. There his VO2max was around 80.Race Radio said:What was it prior to working with Ferrari?
momotaro said:Looking at Froome's Vuelta TT: 147bpm average HR to achieve 400 watts! Wow, his stroke volume must be massive to move enough oxygen to support that kind of power.
http://www.sportsscientists.com/2012/07/tour-in-mountains-analysis-discussion.htmlSo, in terms of what that means for Wiggins and co at the front of the stage, it predicts about 6.4 to 6.5 W/kg. Over 16 minutes, that's not at all unreasonable. To give you some context, calculations of climbing power output in the Tour de France in the 1990s and 2000s often estimated that top riders maintained power outputs of 6.4 to 6.5W/kg on the Tour's HC climbs, most of which take over 40 minutes to climb. So in other words, there was an era where the best riders were maintaining similar power outputs to what we saw on Saturday, for three times the duration. Put differently, all those riders would probably have been a minute clear of this current generation on this climb...
I don't know other mistakes.webvan said:Completely idiotic political references in that article, besides they got the time up the Planche des Belles Filles wrong, it was 16'16" not 16'23", not a big difference I know, but what other mistakes have they made?
According to Vayer (and Porteleau) time was 16:45. It should be 16:16. Difference is 29 seconds.Pour se convaincre que la gauche, avec son moteur seulement thermique, avait éventuellement pris le pouvoir, sur le court col final de la Planche des Belles-Filles (5,9 km à 8,53 % de moyenne en dénivelée, avec un faible vent de 10 km/h), nous tablions sur un temps de 16'45 à 450 watts.
After the usual flat stages, as always stuffed with too many crashes and broken bones, the short climb of La Planche des Belles Filles (500m of ascent at 8.5%) already offered a certain selection, with Froome, Evans, Wiggins and Nibali expressing 1844 m/h, equal to 6.47w/kg.
The Sky riders are pedaling uphill with very high cadences of pedaling (often over 100 RPM), which seem quite excessive in relation to the power outputs, around 420-440W: either these athletes are riding below their limit, or the asymmetrical chainrings used by most of them require higher cadences in order to get the best out of them.