Cycle Chic said:Was todays performance expected then ? just a normal day at the office for our diminutive Colombian/Italian ?
ok wait..you dont trust riders based on their nationality?
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Cycle Chic said:Was todays performance expected then ? just a normal day at the office for our diminutive Colombian/Italian ?
MADRAZO said:It does not prove anything, but the last time he was this strong in the Giro was 2008, when the whole CSF team seemed juiced up (Sella for sure, and also Baliani most likely).
But ofcourse he has always been a great talent and is built to be a great climber, but it is hard not to be a bit suspicious, with the teams past.
MADRAZO said:It does not prove anything, but the last time he was this strong in the Giro was 2008, when the whole CSF team seemed juiced up (Sella for sure, and also Baliani most likely).
But ofcourse he has always been a great talent and is built to be a great climber, but it is hard not to be a bit suspicious, with the teams past.
Cycle Chic said:Well said.
Cycle Chic said:Was todays performance expected then ? just a normal day at the office for our diminutive Colombian/Italian ?
taiwan said:Fair point but there's not a huge amount to go on. Dunno what reason was given for his sucking last year (illness, anyone?), but the year before he was out of the race before it even began due to harsh weather conditions (as I see it) and abandoned. In 2009 he didn't start. End of the day, noone is even saying he's clean as a whistle, the issue is that cycle chic has apparently worked herself into a frenzy over a percieved jump in performance that doesn't really exist, although in all likelihood she/he is just trolling.
Libertine Seguros said:The insinuation that Pozzovivo is doping isn't exactly an earth-shatterer. But the implication that he has come out of nowhere is highly disrespectful.
pmcg76 said:Amazing to think Cycle Chic is suspicious of Pozzovivo but has no opinion of Ryders amazing performance. Double standards much and that was before today.
Parrulo said:hesjedal speaks english and has results to back up a winning ride on a GT
pmcg76 said:Of course........
Cycle Chic said:Unfortunately I have been unable to get the internet until now - otherwise I would have posted on saturday evening after the Stelvio.
Yes I was totally wrong and Pozzo did not blast away from them all and gain 3 minutes.
Never accuse me of admitting when i got it wrong and apologising.
nb. i dont even know what trolling is - and i have beter things to do than wind people up on Cycling News forums.
Cycle Chic said:So Pozzovivo's performances in the Giro did exactly what I said - got him some valuable offers and has signed with AG2R. His juicing did him some good.
Being happy in Italy with a home team didnt happen did it
Libertine Seguros said:He's finished his PhD now.
Pozzovivo: 'A good Choix »
Recruited for his climbing, Domenico Pozzovivo (30 years old) arrives at AG2R with maximum ambitions. "I can handle the leadership role," says one who has the Giro line of sight this season.
Cycle Chic said:ahhh so that explains the headlines in L'Equipe
does it....he's 30, finished studying and now decides to sign the Big Time and be a Team Leader.
http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme-sur-route/Actualites/Pozzovivo-un-bon-choix/347900
Tour of Lombardy, Liege bastogne liege, Tour of Trentino, the Giro and the Vuelta. !!!
I think a few here can eat their words after I started this thread. I was berated for saying his Giro performance was 'not normal'.
Cycle Chic said:isnt Colnago CSF a Continental Team as opposed to AG2R which is a Pro Tour team ?
.. but his performance was super-sized. It was one of those climbing performances that saw lots of journalists scurrying for information that would explain what they had just witnessed.....
Impressive! But this being Italy, it seemed a bit too impressive for some observers to simply applaud and move on to the next stage. There were even some of his peers in the gruppo who smiled and pointed out that Pozzovivo’s rhyming nickname is ‘Positivo’
And now here comes the science. An Italian Cycling Federation physiologist, Fabrizio Tacchino, calculated that Pozzovivo’s VAM (velocita ascensionale media) [average climbing speed] on the Punta Veleno climb was close to the limit of what has been calculated for other world-class riders. Ironically the VAM equation had first been elaborated and used by Dr Michele Ferrari who used it to calculate his client riders’ form. ....
According to those credible Italian sources, Pozzovivo’s VAM on the Punto Veleno climb was 1,886 m/h and he managed to generate an average power output on the 8.5km climb of 329 watts or 6.1 watts/kg for the 29-25 minute duration. Not quite the 6.8watts/kg the late cycling coach Aldo Sassi estimated Marco Pantani was expressing in his heyday, or the 6.7 that Lance Armstrong’s former coach Ferrari claimed was essential to win the Tour.
But even 6.1 watts per kilo is a big number. Sassi was reported in the New York Times in 2010 to say that in the entire 2009 Giro, only one rider, winner Denis Menchov, produced more than 6.0 watts/kg on a climb. Contador and Andy Schleck were estimated on the Science of Sport website at 5.9 watts/kg on the Tourmalet at the end of the 2010 Tour, although that was a longer effort than Pozzovivo’s.
Libertine Seguros said:...However, the implication that he came out of nowhere, like he started doping for a new contract in 2012, is highly ignorant
And if there has been a surprise, nobody is quite sure if it’s a pleasant one