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You love Froome a lot. Everyone understood that a long while ago. Any fresh ideas?
BlurryVII said:
You love Froome a lot. Everyone understood that a long while ago. Any fresh ideas?
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The top 4, by virtue of having individually greater chances to win he Tour than anyone else, form the most likely combination of riders for the top 4 places. Though it is not likely that they will, it is more likely than the scenario where you replace one or more of their names by a different rider.
If it helps, think of golf. It's more likely than not that Rory doesn't win the next major. But Rory is more likely to win the next major than everyone else. The Big 4 for aren't likely to finish 1 to 4, but they are still the most likely group of riders to finish 1 to 4. Combinations involving other riders are even less likely.
Nonetheless, with his incredible showing in the Ardennes, with Tour having hilly stages and time bonuses and with one of the great injustices of cycling being that Alejandro hasn't been on the podium of the Tour yet, I feel compelled to predict:
1. Dawg
2. Contador
3. Valverde
4. Nibali
5. Quintana
I hope Contador wins, though.
Velolover2 said:
The top 4, by virtue of having individually greater chances to win he Tour than anyone else, form the most likely combination of riders for the top 4 places. Though it is not likely that they will, it is more likely than the scenario where you replace one or more of their names by a different rider.
If it helps, think of golf. It's more likely than not that Rory doesn't win the next major. But Rory is more likely to win the next major than everyone else. The Big 4 for aren't likely to finish 1 to 4, but they are still the most likely group of riders to finish 1 to 4. Combinations involving other riders are even less likely.
Nonetheless, with his incredible showing in the Ardennes, with Tour having hilly stages and time bonuses and with one of the great injustices of cycling being that Alejandro hasn't been on the podium of the Tour yet, I feel compelled to predict:
1. Dawg
2. Contador
3. Valverde
4. Nibali
5. Quintana
I hope Contador wins, though.
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I cant believe my eyes, so many people believe in Giro-Tour double, situation has changed here, I remember the general opinion was opposite 
..interesting
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Yeah I noticed that tooILovecycling said:I cant believe my eyes, so many people believe in Giro-Tour double, situation has changed here, I remember the general opinion was opposite
I agree re Purito, I forgot about him. I would have him 4th maybe ahead of Pinot. Valverde is not as good in France usually.Arredondo said:
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You guys are all so conservative in your predictions.
Let's try make a fun top 5.
1. Contador
2. Pinot
3. Valverde
4. Tejay
5. Poels
Let's try make a fun top 5.
1. Contador
2. Pinot
3. Valverde
4. Tejay
5. Poels
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It's quite interesting really. Basically Contador has been good enough in this Giro to convince many he's still the best. I'm actually on the opposite side of the argument though. I never doubted his ability, but I think the energy he's had to expend in the Giro will be to much for him.
Unfortunately we've not really had the top 4 race against each other without crashes to know who's truly the best. But I just don't believe Contador is enough above the other 3 to beat them with a Giro in his legs. And to be quite honest I don't think anyone should be that good. Remember the last guy who did the Giro-Tour double wasn't exactly a paragon of clean cycling.
As I said I think it's really hard to know who's the best right now. I think under perfect conditions in the high mountains it's probably Contador/Quintana > Froome > Nibali. But the gaps are very small. And considering Froome is the best in TT and Nibali seems most complete (descents/cobbles) and both of them have very strong teams it's nigh impossible to predict what will happen.
That being said, excluding crashes, I reckon it will be something like:
1. Quintana (the lack of time trials strongly favours Quintana).
2. Froome (in the end I think he's going to be the 2nd best climber considering Contador has a Giro in his legs).
3. Nibali (he won't lose that much in the mountains, and he could be higher if he takes time in odd stages).
4. Contador (I just think he'll be too tired to take the top 3, and of course he'll try to win, which could cost him time).
5. Rodriguez (the lack of TT's favours him as much as Quintana, as do the punchy stages, I just think he's to old to challenge the likes of Quintana).
Honestly though, I don't think anyone will really know until La Pierre Saint Martin at the earliest.
ILovecycling said:I cant believe my eyes, so many people believe in Giro-Tour double, situation has changed here, I remember the general opinion was opposite
It's quite interesting really. Basically Contador has been good enough in this Giro to convince many he's still the best. I'm actually on the opposite side of the argument though. I never doubted his ability, but I think the energy he's had to expend in the Giro will be to much for him.
Unfortunately we've not really had the top 4 race against each other without crashes to know who's truly the best. But I just don't believe Contador is enough above the other 3 to beat them with a Giro in his legs. And to be quite honest I don't think anyone should be that good. Remember the last guy who did the Giro-Tour double wasn't exactly a paragon of clean cycling.
As I said I think it's really hard to know who's the best right now. I think under perfect conditions in the high mountains it's probably Contador/Quintana > Froome > Nibali. But the gaps are very small. And considering Froome is the best in TT and Nibali seems most complete (descents/cobbles) and both of them have very strong teams it's nigh impossible to predict what will happen.
That being said, excluding crashes, I reckon it will be something like:
1. Quintana (the lack of time trials strongly favours Quintana).
2. Froome (in the end I think he's going to be the 2nd best climber considering Contador has a Giro in his legs).
3. Nibali (he won't lose that much in the mountains, and he could be higher if he takes time in odd stages).
4. Contador (I just think he'll be too tired to take the top 3, and of course he'll try to win, which could cost him time).
5. Rodriguez (the lack of TT's favours him as much as Quintana, as do the punchy stages, I just think he's to old to challenge the likes of Quintana).
Honestly though, I don't think anyone will really know until La Pierre Saint Martin at the earliest.
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Contador will not win the Tour.
I am surprised at people thinking with their hearts.
Not sure who will win it.
I am surprised at people thinking with their hearts.
Not sure who will win it.
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