Protest against Cavendish

[L'arriviste]

I the issue here is more about Cavindish’s the man himself. If the same events occurred with any other rider there wouldn’t have been a protest. Hunt and co. are sticking up for their man. Bravo to that. Cav’s problem when he was winning every race he entered he did it without humility. Now he’s not winning so much and making mistakes he’s finding he has no friends. Its going to be a long time to he can earn back the respect of the peloton. It will go against him the Tour. He’s becoming a liability of Columbia – they don’t seem to be able to manage him. I think well done to the protest. Cervelo stuck up for their man who was fowled. If the roles were reversed what do you think Cav would have done? He wouldn’t have held a protest the next day on the startline. He would have ran up to the Cervelo team bus, banged on their door, when they didn’t open it he would have smashed one of the windows, jumped in and smashed the place up. He then would have spent the next 6 weeks telling the press what a bunch of sc3m bags the Cervelo team are. Contrast will show what Cervelo did was pride for the team and their man.

+1. Isn't this is getting a bit old now, folks? He's done stuff before and he'll do stuff again. Meanwhile the riders have moved on and are busy writing today's headlines. Why don't we join them?

 

[Divine Intervention]

Cav apologised to Thor Hushovd in person and said he was a worthy winner of the green jersy, despite Cav whooping his **** in every sprint.

That was classy of him, wasn't it?

 

[thehog]

Cav apologised to Thor Hushovd in person and said he was a worthy winner of the green jersy, despite Cav whooping his **** in every sprint.

That was classy of him, wasn't it?

Yes and only after 2 weeks whereby Cav told the world the green jersey was tainted on Thor’s back. Real classy. Ran the guy into the ground, made his green jersey worthless then said “sorry about that”. The damage had been done.

 

[TRDean]

Cav apologised to Thor Hushovd in person and said he was a worthy winner of the green jersy, despite Cav whooping his **** in every sprint.

That was classy of him, wasn't it?

Contrary to your opinion...the green jersey is a little more than just the ability to sprint...Cav knows this now...and so do you!

 

[Ashtabula]

+1. Isn't this is getting a bit old now, folks? He's done stuff before and he'll do stuff again. Meanwhile the riders have moved on and are busy writing today's headlines. Why don't we join them?

One more thing though. Caption to the picture accompanying the article on the protest repeats that Cav's wheel was snapped in half. I thought the very extensive analysis done on these threads yesterday demonstrated that while it certainly bent prodigiously, it in fact snapped back.

 

[Newgymshoes]

+1. Isn't this is getting a bit old now, folks? He's done stuff before and he'll do stuff again. Meanwhile the riders have moved on and are busy writing today's headlines. Why don't we join them?

So you think this kind of behaviour is fine? Well, I don't, so that is why I join in on the protest. With your attitude nothing would ever change. Maybe when Cav see that his actions have consequenses then he will start using his head.

 

[phlatties]

ok, newgymshoes BUT you yourself nor I are not affected at all by the outcome in any way shape or form. Hell, even Galarraga, Joyce and an entire city moved on (ok, Joyce did apologize). I think its called grace and class. you can only really affect how you react. +1 on your passion, though. gotta go watch world cup!

 

[flicker]

I wasn't talking about the sprint itself. I was talking about the protest. It's not usual, which means that the riders themselves think Cav went over the top.

If there is a problem the Pros will sort it out. Cycling is a mafia. No need for public display or trash talking. My understanding is the pros will sort it out with cav, EBH,McKewen,Haussler. Or any other rider in the mix.

I am more concerned with the rider who broke his hip, that is where red blood cells are produced. Could end that guys career.

Just like me I could get snuffed out by a truck riding my bike to the corner store.
Cycling is a dangerous sport.

 

[kurtinsc]

Cav apologised to Thor Hushovd in person and said he was a worthy winner of the green jersy, despite Cav whooping his **** in every sprint.

That was classy of him, wasn't it?

No, because it was Cav doing it... therefore it cannot be classy in any way.

Similarly, if it appears Cadel Evans is attacking, it's not actually an attack. He's simply using an advanced form of wheel-sucking.

It appears that most cycling fans are a lot like people dealing with US politics. They pick a "side"... then defend any action done by their side and criticize any action from the other side... even if doing so disagrees with why they picked their side to begin with.

There are those that love Cav and those that hate him. No action by Cav either positive or negative will do much to sway most of those people that have now decided.

 

[doddy13]

Cavendish is a marmite personality (never thought i'd use that analogy in cycling).
You either like or dislike him. There aren't many people in the middle.

This is the perfect opportunity for those who dislike him to come along and attack him.
let them, there's going to be many more wins for cavendish, more wins than controversy anyway.

 

[TRDean]

No, because it was Cav doing it... therefore it cannot be classy in any way.
Similarly, if it appears Cadel Evans is attacking, it's not actually an attack. He's simply using an advanced form of wheel-sucking.

It appears that most cycling fans are a lot like people dealing with US politics. They pick a "side"... then defend any action done by their side and criticize any action from the other side... even if doing so disagrees with why they picked their side to begin with.

There are those that love Cav and those that hate him. No action by Cav either positive or negative will do much to sway most of those people that have now decided.

Is it really "classy" to apologize after being a jerk in the first place? I don't like Cav...but do admit that when he is on there is no better. But off the bike...he is a grade A ***.

 

[hfer07]

I honestly believe the protest by Klier and Hunt just won't accomplish anything-and it's strange that nowadays we witness so much whining & b*tching around the peloton....
I'm going back a decade or two when sprint accidents where almost lethal,-- riders seemed to be aware of the danger & managed to obey those untold laws
of fast sprinting--If a crash ever took place, then it was dealt with by the protagonists themselves, apart from the race-never in public.
as has been explained, the protest is a personal vendetta against Cav-which BTW has fairly earned by his behavior. I also blame the media for making this incident a big scandal, and "not being ethical & balanced"

 

[Newgymshoes]

ok, newgymshoes BUT you yourself nor I are not affected at all by the outcome in any way shape or form. Hell, even Galarraga, Joyce and an entire city moved on (ok, Joyce did apologize). I think its called grace and class. you can only really affect how you react. +1 on your passion, though. gotta go watch world cup!

oh, but you're wrong. As a huge fan of cycling I am in the biggest way affected. It is for us, the fans/public, they are riding, why sponsors use loads of money to show themselves. I wanna see a fair sport without breaking the rules (in any way) and sportsmen showing respect for their sport. In this way i am affected. You don't have to lie on the hospital with broken wrist or full of scrapes to be affected.

(also watching world cup)

 

[phlatties]

i wonder how many really good pints this topic would last if we were all pulled up at the bar or would we all be able to be real men and notice the hotties walking around instead.

 

[L'arriviste]

So you think this kind of behaviour is fine? Well, I don't, so that is why I join in on the protest. With your attitude nothing would ever change. Maybe when Cav see that his actions have consequenses then he will start using his head.

If you looked at my other posts before taking a cheap shot, which you clearly haven't, you will see that I don't condone dodgy sprinting and I agreed that it was his fault. However, my attitude is irrelevant.

The manchild has been judged by the race officials and this morning by his peers. He will listen to them and only them. As someone else said here, the peloton will sort this out between themselves and the matter will be concluded long before this thread ever is.

 

[Divine Intervention]

Eurosport commentator makes an interesting point. 200ms before the finish Haussler cut right into Cavendish and almost ran him into the barriers, yet nobody has complained about this.

He says Cav should not have to apologise for a racing incident like this.

 

[cycledp]

I honestly believe the protest by Klier and Hunt just won't accomplish anything-and it's strange that nowadays we witness so much whining & b*tching around the peloton....
I'm going back a decade or two when sprint accidents where almost lethal,-- riders seemed to be aware of the danger & managed to obey those untold laws
of fast sprinting--If a crash ever took place, then it was dealt with by the protagonists themselves, apart from the race-never in public.
as has been explained, the protest is a personal vendetta against Cav-which BTW has fairly earned by his behavior. I also blame the media for making this incident a big scandal, and "not being ethical & balanced"

I'm sure we would have heard the *****ing and whining a decade or two ago too if they had had personal media outlets like twitter and youtube where everyone feels a strange obligation to tell the world about every meaningless detail of their life. I'm not a Cavendish fan, but I don't think any of this was intentional on his part to injure someone. Hopefully this won't ruin anyone's career or hurt their chances of participating in the Tour de France.

 

[doddy13]

Eurosport commentator makes an interesting point. 200ms before the finish Haussler cut right into Cavendish and almost ran him into the barriers, yet nobody has complained about this.

He says Cav should not have to apologise for a racing incident like this.

I went and got my DVD as soon as Brian Smith said that. I have only just noticed it, that was one stupid movement from Haussler. Just confirming my opinion that 25% of the blame is his.

Cavendish should have accepted the new position that Haussler forced him into though.

 

[Newgymshoes]

I went and got my DVD as soon as Brian Smith said that. I have only just noticed it, that was one stupid movement from Haussler. Just confirming my opinion that 25% of the blame is his.

Cavendish should have accepted the new position that Haussler forced him into though.

take a look at this video: http://www.vgtv.no/?id=30893

Who is the man drifting HARD to the left? And to those who say it was because of the wheel.....you can see that the wheel breaks AFTER contact. It is clear to see that Cavendish is drifting, Haussler is just throwing his bike back and forth at time of contact. Haussler drifts a little bit before the contact, but is going straight at time of contact.

 

[hfer07]

Cavendish should have accepted the new position that Haussler forced him into though.

honestly-did you watch the video at all? it really does not make sense what you just wrote!!

 

[Animal]

Hod Carrier in not backing down shock.

 

[phlatties]

only cavendish will sort out cavendish. period. only he can react to his peers, rules, sponshorships, suspensions, you name it. like flicker said it will sort itself out. It's like when Muzzin tried to take Davey out!!! (ol skoolers, can i get an amen).

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

ES in France are reporting that Frodo spat on Haussler after the incident.


http://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/to...eve-anti-cavendish_sto2364460/flashnews.shtml

With thanks to Mellow Velo

 

[Divine Intervention]

I went and got my DVD as soon as Brian Smith said that. I have only just noticed it, that was one stupid movement from Haussler. Just confirming my opinion that 25% of the blame is his.

Cavendish should have accepted the new position that Haussler forced him into though.

Yeah I went back and checked it on the sky plus. It's sort of difficult to work out but there is certainly a lot of wild weaving by a lot of riders, as there often is in sprints.

It's surprising that there aren't more accidents really.

 

[Barrus]

ES in France are reporting that Frodo spat on Haussler after the incident.


http://www.eurosport.fr/cyclisme/to...eve-anti-cavendish_sto2364460/flashnews.shtml

With thanks to Mellow Velo

This is getting really absurd, that man needs to be put down a few pegs, either by other racers or he needs to punished by the team, as this reflects badly on the team and the cycling sport as a whole