RadioShack rider positive

[Oncearunner8]

I am suprised ChrisE did not take you to task for calling him a sh*t.....

The night is still early in his house trailer.

 

[patricknd]

I am suprised ChrisE did not take you to task for calling him a sh*t.....

give it time........

 

[ProfTournesol]

that was very careless of Team Dopingshack. Standards slipping maybe?

 

[knewcleardaze]

The night is still early in his house trailer.

I beg your pardon. I believe it's called a stationary mobile home. Well, mine is anyways.

 

[elizab]

What are the chances there is the Thyroid hormone T3 involved?

http://www.articlesbase.com/supplem...nbuterol-fat-burning-94407.html#axzz0lt5uqaOt

 

[Oncearunner8]

What are the chances there is the Thyroid hormone T3 involved?

http://www.articlesbase.com/supplem...nbuterol-fat-burning-94407.html#axzz0lt5uqaOt

whoa. where you been! No Hombre around here!

 

[BroDeal]

What are the chances there is the Thyroid hormone T3 involved?

Pretty high. There are several drugs that BBers typically combine with Clen to increase its effectiveness or extend the length of time that Clen works. I don't know if any of those drugs are banned.

Clean does not sound like a good drug to use if you expect to be tested. A lot of the BB sites say that the half life is ten hours. Others say its elimination is biphasic; some is eliminated quickly with a ten hour half life and the rest is eliminated more slowly over several days. You take it every day, so if you are in the "on" cycle, which typically lasts two to four weeks, then you are sure to test positive.

 

[this_is_edie]

Pretty high. There are several drugs that BBers typically combine with Clen to increase its effectiveness or extend the length of time that Clen works. I don't know if any of those drugs are banned.

Clean does not sound like a good drug to use if you expect to be tested. A lot of the BB sites say that the half life is ten hours. Others say its elimination is biphasic; some is eliminated quickly with a ten hour half life and the rest is eliminated more slowly over several days. You take it every day, so if you are in the "on" cycle, which typically lasts two to four weeks, then you are sure to test positive.

Interesting. Was Fuyu Li a late-minute replacement for Dwars door Vlaanderen? I don't follow the shack so....

 

[BroDeal]

Fuyu Li: ”I am just a helper, why would I take this? I don’t even know what it is. This is very bad, not only for me, but especially for Chinese cycling.”

 

[Alpe d'Huez]

My guess is that he was on his own here, or not monitored well enough by the team so he wouldn't test +. The idea of him being a sacrificial lamb to me are silly. It makes much more sense for RS to have no riders come out positive than toss one away to show they are combating doping. Though I'm sure they'll leave him out to dry. They would probably with every rider on the team except one (no prizes for the correct guess).

As to Emma O'Reilly, I'm sure elizab can offer way more insight than I can, but Emma was often called the heart and soul of the team, and by all accounts a very gentle person. If I recall correctly Emma did tell David Walsh that at one point she even feared for her safety by speaking out. One of Armstrong's arguments was not only was her information fabricated, but she and Patrice Steffen were looking to essentially blackmail Armstrong and collect $60 million for a whistleblower reward of sorts Steffen was concocting. As much as I could research, I found not one fiber of information on this claim, or a source for it other than Armstrong:

http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2006/jun06/armstrongstatement3

If anyone else has valid, concrete information, I'd love to hear it.

As an aside, still waiting to hear the French gendarmes results on the 2009 Astana drip bags...

 

[joy118118]

Well, in China, Clenbuterol is abused in pigs feeding. It is not news that Clenbuterol is tested postive in pork.

Food security is always a BIG problem in China.

 

[Joey_J]

Emma

Paid for her testimony? Is this the latest myth team Armstrong is trying to invent? Emma never testified in anything. Her interviews with Walsh were free, although he did help with her legal costs after publication

Armstrong tested positive for synthetic cortisone.

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/149david-walsh-part-2/

43 minutes into this, Walsh gets into EO’R. He tells all that he paid EO’R to be a source for his book. He also admits he lied about it when asked if he’d done so. He gives a heart-wrenching justification but at no time does he say anything about legal costs. Paying for sources in not a good thing. Lying about it even worse. And RR, your credibility is on the ropes too.

And no, LA did not test positive for cortisone in 99

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/149david-walsh-part-2/

43 minutes into this, Walsh gets into EO’R. He tells all that he paid EO’R to be a source for his book. He also admits he lied about it when asked if he’d done so. He gives a heart-wrenching justification but at no time does he say anything about legal costs. Paying for sources in not a good thing. Lying about it even worse. And RR, your credibility is on the ropes too.

And no, LA did not test positive for cortisone in 99

As far as I understand it was a small payment to cover the fact that she spent hours reviewing what she had said to make sure it was accurate.

When people give up their time for the benefit of others, they do sometimes want to get paid. A bit like making a 1 hour speech about how we need to fight cancer and getting hundreds of thousands of dollars etc.

Emma strikes me as being a genuine and compassionate human being, who has since escaped the corruption of pro cycling and runs her own fitness and health centre in the UK.

I respect cancer more than I respect Lance.

The only people who admire him are deluded fantasists and people who don't know enough about cycling to know any better, and nothing is ever going to change this.

History will judge him harshly, mark my words.

 

[Mongol_Waaijer]

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/149david-walsh-part-2/

And no, LA did not test positive for cortisone in 99

So, just the EPO then. That'll do.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Haha Instead of podium predicting, we should have picked which team would have the most positives this season

We've lost the lead, DARN!

 

[thehog]

I have to say I’m deeply shocked by this. I’ve always thought if there was ever going to be a clean team in the peleton it was going to be Radioshack. I’m lost for words.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/149david-walsh-part-2/

43 minutes into this, Walsh gets into EO’R. He tells all that he paid EO’R to be a source for his book. He also admits he lied about it when asked if he’d done so. He gives a heart-wrenching justification but at no time does he say anything about legal costs. Paying for sources in not a good thing. Lying about it even worse. And RR, your credibility is on the ropes too.

And no, LA did not test positive for cortisone in 99

Was Emma not called to give a deposition in the SCA case against Lance?

Also - what part of the rules at the time do you struggle with?


Classes of drugs subject to certain restrictions
C: The use of corticoids is prohibited,
except when used for topical application (auricular, ophthalmological
or dermatological), inhalations (asthma and allergic rhinitis)
and local or intra-articular injections.
Such forms of utilisation are to be proved by the rider with a medical prescription.

 

[craig1985]

Hang on, what caused E'OR to speak out in the first place?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Hang on, what caused E'OR to speak out in the first place?

She didn't "speak out" -as with others on the team like, Stephen Swart, Frankie Andreu, Max Testa, Prentice Steffen and Andy Hampsten she gave an interview to DW and she confirmed what was going on in the team.

 

[Race Radio]

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/149david-walsh-part-2/

43 minutes into this, Walsh gets into EO’R. He tells all that he paid EO’R to be a source for his book. He also admits he lied about it when asked if he’d done so. He gives a heart-wrenching justification but at no time does he say anything about legal costs. Paying for sources in not a good thing. Lying about it even worse. And RR, your credibility is on the ropes too.

And no, LA did not test positive for cortisone in 99

You can try to twist it as much as you like, but it does not change anything. Walsh giving Emma a few thousand dollars months after her interview changes nothing. It had become clear that the only thing she had done was expose herself to Armstrong petty legal threats and childish intimidation tactics. Next you will say that everything Mazano said was a lie because he was paid 20 times the pittance Emma received.

The TUE was back dated and invented. In the days prior LA had been very forceful in his denials that he was not taking anything with Cortisone. Does anyone really thing that Armstrong would use a product without knowing the ingredients?

Armstrong tested positive for Cortisone, if he had not he would not have needed the back dated TUE. Pretty simple, even you can understand it.

 

[JPM London]

Armstrong tested positive for Cortisone, if he had not he would not have needed the back dated TUE. Pretty simple, even you can understand it.

I think he wanted the back-dated TUE because he heard everybody else had backdated TUEs in their pockets and he thought it would make him ride faster...

 

[Libertine Seguros]

And being the Uniballer, he had space to make his pockets deeper than anybody else, so more backdated TUEs could fit.

 

[buckwheat]

http://competitorradio.competitor.com/2007/07/149david-walsh-part-2/

43 minutes into this, Walsh gets into EO’R. He tells all that he paid EO’R to be a source for his book. He also admits he lied about it when asked if he’d done so. He gives a heart-wrenching justification but at no time does he say anything about legal costs. Paying for sources in not a good thing. Lying about it even worse. And RR, your credibility is on the ropes too.

And no, LA did not test positive for cortisone in 99

Hi Johann!

I love what you're doing with the Shack!

How do you plan on sabotaging AC this year?

Do you have any moles on Astana?

Maybe you can do something under the table with Specialized? I'm sure they have some disgruntled employees over there.

I've been brainstorming. If you could somehow inject some loctite into one of AC's wheels. I know they have some security/chain of custody problems with these Kazahks. You might be able to work some unsecured nukes into the equation.

Love,

The Real Buckwheat

PS. Nice diversionary tactic throwing that Asian guy under the bus....I mean shack!

 

[hfer07]

The idea of him being a sacrificial lamb to me are silly. It makes much more sense for RS to have no riders come out positive than toss one away to show they are combating doping. Though I'm sure they'll leave him out to dry. They would probably with every rider on the team except one (no prizes for the correct guess).

If I recall correctly, Vladimir Gusev was expelled from the team due to "abnormal Values" which Bruyneel used cleverly to push the "clean team" propaganda, just to find himself & the team being sued & a year later forced to pay back Gusev due wages, damage & legal fees.......

 

[Joey_J]

From the TdF 99

This is from the official TdF communiqué in 99. I’m sure everybody saw the press conference which explained the same thing.

>Lance Armstrong, the yellow jersey holder in the 86th Tour de France was tested on July 4 at 17.00 after the first stage of the Tour between Montaigu and Challans. The test was done by the Laboratoire national de lutte contre le dopage (LNLD) at Châtenay-Malabry (Hauts-de-Seine), and they detected traces of triamcinolone acétonide, a synthetic corticoid in the urine. However, the analysis was not declared positive, the testosterone ratio for epitestosterone being too low to warrant a positive finding. It was 0.2, when the limit after which a positive test is returned is fixed at 6.<