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Mrs John Murphy

Mrs John Murphy

May 3, 2010
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Let's play 'let's refresh Brad's memory'

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The Hitch

The Hitch

Jun 14, 2010
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Webber.
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A side issue, but i think all these people that say it sends a message to other sports that you will always pay eventually, are very wrong and even stupid.

Lance got caught cos he was a moron who did it openly, boasted about it, and hurt a lot of people and did so for over a decade until the levy's burst.
 
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JMBeaushrimp

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The Hitch said:
A side issue, but i think all these people that say it sends a message to other sports that you will always pay eventually, are very wrong and even stupid.

Lance got caught cos he was a moron who did it openly, boasted about it, and hurt a lot of people and did so for over a decade until the levy's burst.
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Slip of the fingers?

Not sure if you meant "levies", or maybe (more appropriately) "Levi"...
 
frenchfry

frenchfry

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I love that at the eleventh hour there was a mass filing of comments/concessions/admissions. And they all stopped doping in 2006? Gotcha...

Everyone of these d*uche-bag liars have been part of Omerta for the beter part of a decade (if not more). Why did they come out now? The gun was to their head. If they weren't sh*tting their pants, there is NO WAY any of them would have 'fessed up. These are not heroes.

The sad fact is that the heroes are guys like Bassons, who burnt his own bridges by being honest. Where were these f*ck-wads then? Did they back him up? Did they offer support to him? Did they change what they were doing? Not even by an iota. They stuck to the plan. They kept on cranking.

To see them now, admitting their guilt, and showing no regard for the riders who had more moral fortitude than them (after all, they all said they didn't WANT to dope), is an utter disgrace.

I felt the same after Zable's admission, "Nice that you found honesty now, but what about the riders who WOULDN'T dope, where are they? F*ck you, Erik.".

And a really serious F*CK YOU to the cowards who are coming out now, because it's only due to pressure.

Been clean since 2006? Fool me once (which you tried), shame on me. Fool me twice... Well, too late for that...

You are lying cowards trying to play the 'level playing field' card when you really know what the truth is. It does not level the playing field, and you know you were cheating.

F*CK YOU!
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This is exactly what I think, thanks for this post.
 
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pelodee

May 29, 2012
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The Hitch said:
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Oh wait a picture. From the Tour de France in 2009. Even says so. And look!!!! who is that next to Wiggins.

Wow, i hear you say," but hasn't that been photoshopped by some haters?"

Good question. But no, let me tell you a secret. That is the cover of Brads own book.


Looks like even the author didnt like this crap.
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This and the video interview w/Wiggins JRanton posted earlier is...erm...odd to put it mildly.
 
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rata de sentina

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Extensive interview with Henk Vogels on Aussie radio the other day. Basically said the reason he left Europe to race in the US was he didn't want to dope and could compete otherwise. Said there would be a lot of ex amateur riders who missed out on pro careers because they wouldn't dope and that they were ignored victims in this.
 
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pelodee

May 29, 2012
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rata de sentina said:
Extensive interview with Henk Vogels on Aussie radio the other day. Basically said the reason he left Europe to race in the US was he didn't want to dope and could compete otherwise. Said there would be a lot of ex amateur riders who missed out on pro careers because they wouldn't dope and that they were ignored victims in this.
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Is this the interview?
 
summerhill

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Mar 11, 2012
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Very disappointed with Nicolas Roche on Prime Time tonight. Never really criticised Armstrong and just said the usual that it happenned a long time ago and that it is cleaner now. When he said this, he got pulled up on Contador and said he served his ban and that was that. Refused to criticise McQuaid and said this all happenned when McQuaid was'nt there and that Verbruggen has little say these days.

At the start they played an intro clip highlighting doping issues with Sean Kelly and Stephen Roche. Nicolas got asked later about Stephen's past and said he never tested positve and there was nothing concrete against him.

You could see he was uncomfortable with the line of questioning.

Also Shane Stokes was in the studio and once again criticised the UCI for going after Kimmage. Said the sport needs to kick out former dopers who are involved in managing teams.
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Nicolas Roche was clearly uncomfortable. Both he, and Sean Kelly even more emphatically earlier, was determined to sing the praises of Pat MacQuaid in addressing doping.

http://www.rte.ie/player/gb/show/10064478/ @22mins after report on the the Quinns - whose style of carry on seems like the MacQs.
 
mikkemus23

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JMBeaushrimp said:
I love that at the eleventh hour there was a mass filing of comments/concessions/admissions. And they all stopped doping in 2006? Gotcha...

Everyone of these d*uche-bag liars have been part of Omerta for the beter part of a decade (if not more). Why did they come out now? The gun was to their head. If they weren't sh*tting their pants, there is NO WAY any of them would have 'fessed up. These are not heroes.

The sad fact is that the heroes are guys like Bassons, who burnt his own bridges by being honest. Where were these f*ck-wads then? Did they back him up? Did they offer support to him? Did they change what they were doing? Not even by an iota. They stuck to the plan. They kept on cranking.

To see them now, admitting their guilt, and showing no regard for the riders who had more moral fortitude than them (after all, they all said they didn't WANT to dope), is an utter disgrace.

I felt the same after Zable's admission, "Nice that you found honesty now, but what about the riders who WOULDN'T dope, where are they? F*ck you, Erik.".

And a really serious F*CK YOU to the cowards who are coming out now, because it's only due to pressure.

Been clean since 2006? Fool me once (which you tried), shame on me. Fool me twice... Well, too late for that...

You are lying cowards trying to play the 'level playing field' card when you really know what the truth is. It does not level the playing field, and you know you were cheating.

F*CK YOU!
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+ a lot!!!

Well said!
 
Dear Wiggo

Dear Wiggo

Sep 29, 2012
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rata de sentina said:
Extensive interview with Henk Vogels on Aussie radio the other day. Basically said the reason he left Europe to race in the US was he didn't want to dope and could compete otherwise. Said there would be a lot of ex amateur riders who missed out on pro careers because they wouldn't dope and that they were ignored victims in this.
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No offence but US NRS are right up there. ie I don't think there's any less doping in the US than Europe - just maybe not as sophisticated as there's less $$$.

If US masters are doping to do well in Gran Fondos...
 
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rata de sentina

Jul 28, 2009
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Dear Wiggo said:
No offence but US NRS are right up there. ie I don't think there's any less doping in the US than Europe - just maybe not as sophisticated as there's less $$$.

If US masters are doping to do well in Gran Fondos...
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I'm just relaying what he said. I guess he is talking late 90s early 2000s so maybe it was less organised less effective or less instituitionalised then. Or alternatively maybe he felt he was competitive there without it or even maybe there was less pressure to dope at the time. Could be a host of reasons.
 
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