Reactions from the peloton

[ToreBear]

I'd agree with this. You can't compare an unexpected question at a post-stage press conference with a prepared and relaxed interview.

He knows he has a higher profile so I'm sure he attempts to present a more polished image when he has time to prepare for it.

I do think that he is conflicted over the whole situation. The one interesting comment he made was at the end of the interview when they were talking about who should the tour victories go to and was lance still respected because he was the best even though everyone doped.

His response touched on the fact that it wasn't about being the best athlete, but rather having the best doctor, before he suggested it would be better not to dwell on that subject. It lends an air of credibility, though maybe its just more diversionary chatter.

I noticed that too. I was thinking pharmacology competition would be a good way to describe what he was hinting at.

It wouldn't surprise me if he had some PR assistance. I don't see Brailsford wanting him to be totally unmanaged in this situation.

**** **** ******* bullocks is not dignified for a man in his position.

 

[Andy99]

It's no good moaning about the BBC. Cycling got itself in this mess and fully deserves the bad press.

I don't doubt at all that our sport deserves it.

But in the eyes of the BBC, cycling doesn't exist unless it can be knocked.

 

[Poursuivant]

It is seriously rather amusing how some posters on here are not capable of ignoring bias and will always attack some riders no matter what they say.

You could put a list of 10 different responses riders could come up with a release to the media and all of them would be unsatisfactory in certain members eyes..

Lol, was thinking the same, it is a bit embarrassing.

 

[Andy99]

Lol, was thinking the same, it is a bit embarrassing.

Yep. The drivel will always be there.

 

[Andy99]

 

[Zam_Olyas]

It is seriously rather amusing how some posters on here are not capable of ignoring bias and will always attack some riders no matter what they say.

You could put a list of 10 different responses riders could come up with a release to the media and all of them would be unsatisfactory in certain members eyes..

And anything from sky will be like treasure to you

 

[JRanton]

Is there anything more from the Spanish peloton other than Samu Sanchez and Joan Horrach's remarks?

What about the gunslinger? What does he think about his idol now?

 

[JRanton]

It is seriously rather amusing how some posters on here are not capable of ignoring bias and will always attack some riders no matter what they say.

You could put a list of 10 different responses riders could come up with a release to the media and all of them would be unsatisfactory in certain members eyes..

What riders?

And just for the record there are plenty of reasons to be suspicious about Sky and the tough questions need to be asked. I like to see Sky and British cycling do well too but don't completely stick your head in the sand.

 

[Froome19]

What riders?

And just for the record there are plenty of reasons to be suspicious about Sky and the tough questions need to be asked. I like to see Sky and British cycling do well too but don't completely stick your head in the sand.

True I agree with that, but there is a fine line between objective and reasonable and just having a go at the rider out of spite.

And anything from sky will be like treasure to you

Reread posts.. maybe?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

This is all just a matter of charity, chastity, prudence and hope. Armstrong may have had seven celebrated summers, and dictated the terms of psychic warfare to his opponents for years, but during these important years he spent the whole time saying "I don't know what you're talking about", but sooner or later, friend, you've got to fall, and "I apologize" won't cut it anymore.

For everything he's made these guys suffer through, I hope he suffers 59 times the pain.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

When Wiggins ends up saying in the SkyNews interview
(about Lance use of his system to win tours)

"It's not what the sport is about - and it is certainly not why I do it."

That is a strong "I'm not doping" statement

- so let's hope he's telling the truth - despite the negative body language
he had throughout the interview.

 

[Fatclimber]

My goodness there are some hateful people in this forum. To quote the hero of the hour: Tygart "I have personally talked with and heard these athletes' stories and firmly believe that, collectively, these athletes, if forgiven and embraced, have a chance to leave a legacy far greater for the good of the sport than anything they ever did on a bike." The truth is what will set cycling free not vicious slagging off of people some of it based on subjective opinion of whether we like them or not.

What you are witnessing is anger from fans: fans who purchase television packages solely for the purpose of watching cycling races, fans who spend thousands of dollars to travel and watch races and write riders names on the roads and yell at the top of their lungs when their favorites pass by, fans who spend hours reading and writing and conversing with friends of cycling related topics, fans who spend a lot of money on cycling magazines and D d's so they can relive hellacious performances, fans who gain respect for what the riders do and the work they put in. Fans who want to bear witness to truly courageous efforts but are now aware that everything they've been cheering for for quite a few years has been total bull****.

And when it's all in the open, the offenders spout off some lame, half assed apology while still proclaiming they achieved winning results while clean and serve an off-season "suspension" or retire while being well beyond what was a productive cycling age prior to the " doping era". Meanwhile they've made (not earned) millions and continue to do so from contracts stemming from their doped performances. See you at MSR next year cheaters!

And how many riders still have positive things to say about armstrong? Even after all this crap? The UCI is getting such a large portion of the blame for cycling's issues but it is becoming so evident that the entire sport is saturated with corruption to its core at every level. Top to bottom. What a bunch of garbage.

Well excuse me for being a little angry at the situation. Some of us may take a little while to forget about this crap.

To the clean riders, I salute you. The rest of you cheaters, what a joke of a sport you've created. **** OFF!

"Without integrity there can be no genuine achievement"

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

This is all just a matter of charity, chastity, prudence and hope. Armstrong may have had seven celebrated summers, and dictated the terms of psychic warfare to his opponents for years, but during these important years he spent the whole time saying "I don't know what you're talking about", but sooner or later, friend, you've got to fall, and "I apologize" won't cut it anymore.

For everything he's made these guys suffer through, I hope he suffers 59 times the pain.

Is there a new day rising? Everything is up in the air. With dopers games they play there is always the chance they'll be back from somewhere. They always like too much spice. Being a fan is like sleeping on a bed of nails. Sadly there is no visionary. The media is afraid of being wrong and won't change. Me, I've got no reservations. Armstrong seems dead set on destruction and omerta means that most people won't say a word.

 

[Deagol]

I know. It was irony.

The BBC have a canny ability of only mentioning the word cycling when doping can be mentioned in the same sentence.

They are all over the sport today. Never Ever Ever mention it otherwise. Tw@s

If true, you might want to look in the mirror and ask why.
complicitness is not much better than participation

 

[Andy99]

If true, you might want to look in the mirror and ask why.
complicitness is not much better than participation

Why, what? why they never mention cycling in a sporting sense?

 

[armchairclimber]

Video of the Wiggins interview on Sky.

http://news.sky.com/story/996553/lance-armstrong-wiggins-shocked-by-evidence

BTW I agree with Hitch here, he did'nt speak out here in the same passion and venom like he did in the past with Vino, Di Luca, and Rasmussen.

Last time he spoke out with passion and venom he was vilified for it. Just sayin.

 

[Arnout]

Last time he spoke out with passion and venom he was vilified for it. Just sayin.

That's because we were called bone-idle ****ers for talking about doping.

And now look what's happened.

If anything, I hope Wiggins now understands our questions. I'm still not 100% sure he dopes and in case he doesn't I'm sure it's hard to get all those accusations. But in that case he will also understand those questions, as he has asked them himself before.

That's why I expect a more complete answer than that we are bone-idle ****ers. I expect (some of the) transparency we were once promised.

Unfortunately, if the only answer to doping accusations is that we are bone and idle and the lot, I consider him a doper even though he might not be.

 

[thirteen]

Wiggins, in writing: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/oct/11/lance-armstrong-bradley-wiggins?CMP=twt_gu

 

[hrotha]

I'm so fed up with the "this was 10 years ago" lie. This was 2 years ago, people. This was right now, as far as Bruyneel and co. are concerned.

 

[Arnout]

The main message is "leave us alone".

 

[Arnout]

That's very disappointing, I had high hopes of him after previous reactions.

 

[BYOP88]

They're all singing from the new hymn sheet.

 

[Velo_vicar]

What you are witnessing is anger from fans: fans who purchase television packages solely for the purpose of watching cycling races, fans who spend thousands of dollars to travel and watch races and write riders names on the roads and yell at the top of their lungs when their favorites pass by, fans who spend hours reading and writing and conversing with friends of cycling related topics, fans who spend a lot of money on cycling magazines and D d's so they can relive hellacious performances, fans who gain respect for what the riders do and the work they put in. Fans who want to bear witness to truly courageous efforts but are now aware that everything they've been cheering for for quite a few years has been total bull****.

And when it's all in the open, the offenders spout off some lame, half assed apology while still proclaiming they achieved winning results while clean and serve an off-season "suspension" or retire while being well beyond what was a productive cycling age prior to the " doping era". Meanwhile they've made (not earned) millions and continue to do so from contracts stemming from their doped performances. See you at MSR next year cheaters!

And how many riders still have positive things to say about armstrong? Even after all this crap? The UCI is getting such a large portion of the blame for cycling's issues but it is becoming so evident that the entire sport is saturated with corruption to its core at every level. Top to bottom. What a bunch of garbage.

Well excuse me for being a little angry at the situation. Some of us may take a little while to forget about this crap.

To the clean riders, I salute you. The rest of you cheaters, what a joke of a sport you've created. **** OFF!

"Without integrity there can be no genuine achievement"

Of course there is anger that is natural when there is betrayal. Hatred is a different matter and t he hatred in some of these posts shows that nasty personalities aren't confined to one side of the debate. As some one said hatred and bitterness is like taking poison and hoping someone else dies.

 

[armchairclimber]

I know this is all disappointing but I suppose they want to be riding professionally over the coming years. Unless they paint a picture of a sport that has left this **** in the past, the concern will be money flooding out of cycling.

 

[Benotti69]

Very disappointed with Nicolas Roche on Prime Time tonight. Never really criticised Armstrong and just said the usual that it happenned a long time ago and that it is cleaner now. When he said this, he got pulled up on Contador and said he served his ban and that was that. Refused to criticise McQuaid and said this all happenned when McQuaid was'nt there and that Verbruggen has little say these days.

At the start they played an intro clip highlighting doping issues with Sean Kelly and Stephen Roche. Nicolas got asked later about Stephen's past and said he never tested positve and there was nothing concrete against him.

You could see he was uncomfortable with the line of questioning.

Also Shane Stokes was in the studio and once again criticised the UCI for going after Kimmage. Said the sport needs to kick out former dopers who are involved in managing teams.

Nico Roche is tied into McQuaids, Darach McQuaid is his agent, no? His Dad Stephen recently got a UCI job, which he desperately needs as his hotel is no more and the training camps website seems well out of date, so no i wouldn't expect much from Roche and Roche signed for Doping Riis.