Richie Porte Discussion Thread.

[MuskyOurSaviour]

VUELTA WINNER STATUS: CONFIRMED

 

[DFA123]

Re:

https://twitter.com/ridemediaHQ/status/1018503620612927488 ???

You have to think most GC contenders would have ridden on in that situation. Ochowitz doesn't seem too pleased by the tone of that quote - and rightly so.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Incredibly bad technician and the opposite of tough. Not a TdF-winner.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Yep, it does beg the question why the boy didn't get back on the bike immediately after the incident.

 

[HelloDolly]

If Lawson Craddock can keep riding with a fracture and Dan Martin can go through the cobbles today and take bonus seconds with his injuries ...why or why didnt Richie get back on the bike ...He didnt even try

The more I know about cycling the more I believe that its not your talent at cycling that makes champions ...its your will to win at all costs

Froome has that , Nibali has it...I am afraid Porte does not have it ...He seems to almost court disaster such is his worry that it will befall him

That twitter message from BMC owner did not sound too encouraging for Porte

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde To crash out on one stage 9 may be regarded as a misfortune; to crash on the next looks like carelessness.

 

[yaco]

Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

 

[Salvarani]

It wasnt broken but maybe he was still in so much pain that him and they thought it was? He was holding his arm in that position that you normally do when have you broken it but maybe he just landed really bad on it?

Maybe if he would have at least tried to get on the bike and continued the pain from the crash would have started to ease up and adrenalin kicked in? Maybe he would have still lost minutes either way if he had continued?

I´ll guess we´ll never know...

 

[movingtarget]

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If Lawson Craddock can keep riding with a fracture and Dan Martin can go through the cobbles today and take bonus seconds with his injuries ...why or why didnt Richie get back on the bike ...He didnt even try

The more I know about cycling the more I believe that its not your talent at cycling that makes champions ...its your will to win at all costs

Froome has that , Nibali has it...I am afraid Porte does not have it ...He seems to almost court disaster such is his worry that it will befall him

That twitter message from BMC owner did not sound too encouraging for Porte

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde To crash out on one stage 9 may be regarded as a misfortune; to crash on the next looks like carelessness.

i'm wondering what his injury was if it wasn't a broken collarbone ? Didn't seem to be a dislocated shoulder or anything like that. I think the message from BMC was more about not having faith in the team to find another sponsor and you have to admit they left it late because the team and it's support staff has already been gutted. Be interesting to find out why Porte couldn't continue as he seemed to be in a lot of pain. He didn't even try to get back on his bike. Sounds like the Tour doctor assumed the worst like Porte.

 

[Amazinmets87]

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Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

Assuming the injury report is accurate I'd be astonished if he doesn't ride the Vuelta

 

[movingtarget]

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Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

Leaving it a bit late isn't he ? His new team won't be signing him not to compete in the biggest bike race in the world you wouldn't think ! He should use the Vuelta to get ready for the Worlds either as a GC rider or just to stage hunt. Maybe he can do something in a one day race on a course that should suit him.

 

[AlexNYC]

The guy is 33 and doesn’t have a GT podium despite all his obvious talent. I think the statistics are very clear. It’s something more than just “bad luck” with him.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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The guy is 33 and doesn’t have a GT podium despite all his obvious talent. I think the statistics are very clear. It’s something more than just “bad luck” with him.

Of course, everyone knew that - its not a case of bad luck, rather about not being able your handle your bike properly and yes, being a weak character with a relatively fragile psyche it seems. Yes, I think Porte is weak, he is not a Tour de France winner, but can win the Vuelta if absolutely everything falls into place.

Imagine Contador pulling out today. Wouldn't have happened. Or Nibali, or Quintana...

 

[Cookster15]

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Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

Porte is 33 years old. Too late now and with young talent coming through this was his last chance. Maybe he could try the Vuelta the Giro is just as prone to crashes just ask Brad Wiggins. So frustrating following this guy gets my hopes up every year and throws it away. Somehow Armstrong managed to avoid major crashes for 7 successive Tours.

 

[Cookster15]

Re: Re:

Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

Porte is 33 years old. Too late now and with young talent coming through this was his last chance. Maybe he could try the Vuelta the Giro is just as prone to crashes just ask Brad Wiggins. So frustrating following this guy gets my hopes up every year and throws it away. Somehow Armstrong managed to avoid major crashes for 7 successive Tours. It seems Porte just does not have the right mental attitude where lingering self doubts get the better of him.

 

[roundabout]

Re: Re:

Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

Assuming the injury report is accurate I'd be astonished if he doesn't ride the Vuelta

If he has signed for another team already and if he has abandoned with no broken bones, I'd be astonished if he does ride the Vuelta.

 

[jmdirt]

My original assumption was that he/the dr. determined that the clav was broken or the AC joint was separated (grade 3) so there was no point getting back on the bike. Based on the info. I am reading now, I can't believe that he didn't get back on the bike and give it a go.

I still feel bad for the guy, but I'm questioning his mental toughness now.

 

[roundabout]

Oh, that's just Ochowicz being a ***

https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/int-en/experience/the-feedzone/porte_sustains_fractured_clavicle_in_tour_de_france_stage_9_crash/

 

[del1962]

So a lot of fake news about no breaks

Anyway I hope for a quick recovery and competes for Vuelta

 

[DFA123]

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Oh, that's just Ochowicz being a ***

https://www.bmc-switzerland.com/int-en/experience/the-feedzone/porte_sustains_fractured_clavicle_in_tour_de_france_stage_9_crash/

Who knows what to believe? Could be the team doctor just looking to save face on behalf of Porte.

 

[Oliwright]

Look the guy was clearly in too much pain to continue. I've broken & just injured bones cycling, sometimes you can't carry on because you can't control the bike with 1 hand.

Richie is already one of the best riders in the world, he would have been 2nd in 2015 had BMC waited for him in the 1st week. People clearly crashed in front of him today, so can we leave the bad bike handling digs until he crashes and it's his fault.

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

Leaving it a bit late isn't he ? His new team won't be signing him not to compete in the biggest bike race in the world you wouldn't think ! He should use the Vuelta to get ready for the Worlds either as a GC rider or just to stage hunt. Maybe he can do something in a one day race on a course that should suit him.

When your a team leader you have a say in choosing your major targets for a season - Porte's characteristics are better suited to the Giro parcours and this should be his target in 2019 - Porte has never shown anything in one day races and there is no way I'd have him as team leader in the world's.

 

[yaco]

Re: Re:

Porte needs to get serious about his career - Forget about wasting riding the TDU, forget about the TDF and focus on a GC result at the Giro or the Vuelta..

Assuming the injury report is accurate I'd be astonished if he doesn't ride the Vuelta

If he has signed for another team already and if he has abandoned with no broken bones, I'd be astonished if he does ride the Vuelta.

Porte if fit must ride the Vuelta to prepare himself for 2019 - He can't expect to be competitive with less than 1/2 a GT in 2018.

 

[HelloDolly]

Well it seems Riche Porte had a broken bones after all

https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1018546662615154689


So what was JIm Ochowicz on about then ? Seems relations arent all they had seemed to be at BMC

 

[jmdirt]

The official communicque is "ac disjonction". IMO, at least try riding, but there are three "stories" floating at this point so...

 

[Amazinmets87]

Haha, he did something to piss Porte off on a climb. In fairness Porte's displeasure may have been warranted