Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[ray j willings]

My only pleasure in watching either one of them, TBH.

Fight sky Fight sky....doped and crazy

Titchy Porte. I just thought of that.

Yeah I really enjoyed the TT profile. Those are the sort of postings that make my life feel complete

 

[pastronef]

Fight sky Fight sky....doped and crazy

Titchy Porte. I just thought of that.

Yeah I really enjoyed the TT profile. Those are the sort of postings that make my life feel complete

glad for that
as the previous poster who rode the parcours said, he gained time because of the second hillier part of the race.

am I saying he is clean? NO
am I saying he can win on a parcours that suits him more? yes

 

[TailWindHome]

Poster have an issue with the profile?

Ok

 

[pastronef]

Poster have an issue with the profile?

Ok

it seems so

 

[DirtyWorks]

it seems so

You misunderstand the recent posts. Roughly summarized:

It turns out the TT course was very hilly, worse so on the way back where Richie apparently took back 2 seconds per Km. Which suggests fantastic power, something not really captured by the podium time differences.

This sets up some more political tension with Froome. 2015 is going to be great.

Alex, thanks for posting. It's very helpful.

 

[oldcrank]

The time trial result was partly a case of
an older, more experienced rider sticking
to the power numbers that he and Tim had
decided on vs. a younger, less experienced
rider caught up in the moment of being the
favourite and starting a minute behind a
childhood hero.

Some quotes from Rohan in the aftermath:
"I think I probably went out a little too hard.
I have a little work to do on the pacing side
of things."

"I had Mick Rogers in sight pretty quick and I
think I tried to chase him down too quick and
that put me in the red zone too soon and I
lost it in the second half."

"It's all about controlling it and I think that is
my biggest downfall at the moment when time
trialling and it will probably come with age being
a little more patient."

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Dennis caught and passed Rogers at ~15km. Rogers held Dennis' pace for next 10km then got dropped on a fast descent with ~15km to go when Rogers freewheeled and Dennis kept pedalling. Rogers lost another 45-60 seconds approx on the run home.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Dennis caught and passed Rogers at ~15km. Rogers held Dennis' pace for next 10km then got dropped on a fast descent with ~15km to go when Rogers freewheeled and Dennis kept pedalling. Rogers lost another 45-60 seconds approx on the run home.

Alex, you should have written the CN article.

 

[the sceptic]

You misunderstand the recent posts. Roughly summarized:

It turns out the TT course was very hilly, worse so on the way back where Richie apparently took back 2 seconds per Km. Which suggests fantastic power, something not really captured by the podium time differences.

This sets up some more political tension with Froome. 2015 is going to be great.

Alex, thanks for posting. It's very helpful.

I read somewhere that Richie has been dropping Dawg in training during the winter

Should be a fun year both in cycling and in the clinic

 

[Ferminal]

You misunderstand the recent posts. Roughly summarized:

It turns out the TT course was very hilly, worse so on the way back where Richie apparently took back 2 seconds per Km. Which suggests fantastic power, something not really captured by the podium time differences.

This sets up some more political tension with Froome. 2015 is going to be great.

Alex, thanks for posting. It's very helpful.

It's hardly hilly at all. Over the distance, maybe similar to last year's Tour ITT or Worlds. Plus there it's pretty much a straight road the whole way. A better specialist would never lose to someone they otherwise wouldn't have on a dead flat course. But Porte has never needed hills to do well against the clock so this is nothing unexpected.

(The hardest climb at km 28 is 1.5km @ 4%)

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Perhaps not super hilly but it wasn't pancake flat like say Copenhagen 2011. There was one sharp right hand turn and one u-turn.

I watched all the top favourites as they came up that particular climb and it was suffer time, not all were fluid in their TT position. Some out of saddle action. It was raining at that point with winds driving cross/head on return leg so perhaps that contributed to making it seem hillier than it was.

I had benefit of chatting with the other official race drivers and commissaires who were following various riders as well as being out on course myself.

 

[Ferminal]

Yeh, not disputing first hand observation, just trying to give some context.

Funnily enough Porte was only 1kmh quicker in Copenhagen, 49 v 48.

 

[ebandit]

no worries

no worry here............richie won't be winning a GT

........has he ever shown the necesary consistency in a 3 week race?

............but there again i said that about wiggo / froome

Mark L

 

[BigChain]

It's hardly hilly at all. .........
(The hardest climb at km 28 is 1.5km @ 4%)

Yeh, not disputing first hand observation, just trying to give some context.

Funnily enough Porte was only 1kmh quicker in Copenhagen, 49 v 48.

Pretty hard to give context if you weren't there or haven't seen the course, which was indeed very hilly. Riders hitting 80kmh with the 1st km or so. Hitting 90kmh down one of the hills......I was tracking with GPS. Nah, wouldn't call that hilly. Plus there was a head wind on the way home. If you went out too quickly on that course and overcooked it, you would lose big time on the way home.

 

[Erythropoietin]

Porte, Froome and Tom Danielson all rode faster than Lance's personal best in his training hill. But sure, these guys are clean

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/473432017867378688

 

[markene2]

Porte, Froome and Tom Danielson all rode faster than Lance's personal best in his training hill. But sure, these guys are clean

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/473432017867378688

Woaah reading the tweets to this. It feels like im back in 2005

 

[thehog]

Wow!

Hard proof?!! Get me some of that hard proof! Not that regular watered down proof. Hard proof only. Hard proof for hard men.

 

[Parker]

Porte, Froome and Tom Danielson all rode faster than Lance's personal best in his training hill. But sure, these guys are clean

https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/473432017867378688

Let's leave Froome aside and focus on Porte and Danielson. When in actual races have either climbed to anything like the level Armstrong did?
Never, right? But here they are, faster than he ever was.

Is there not a voice in your head, just a little one, asking about how valid, accurate or genuinely comparable these self-recorded times are? Or are you just going to accept it at face value with no reservations or provisos because it supports your preset opinion?

 

[thehog]

Let's leave Froome aside and focus on Porte and Danielson. When in actual races have either climbed to anything like the level Armstrong did?
Never, right? But here they are, faster than he ever was.

Is there not a voice in your head, just a little one, asking about how valid, accurate or genuinely comparable these self-recorded times are? Or are you just going to accept it at face value with no reservations or provisos because it supports your preset opinion?

Porte Ax3. Lead Froome all the way up, then attacked and came 2nd.

His time was close to Lance but rode out the front longer than Lance. So again you're just making stuff up. Botlogic at its best.

 

[42x16ss]

Let's leave Froome aside and focus on Porte and Danielson. When in actual races have either climbed to anything like the level Armstrong did?
Never, right? But here they are, faster than he ever was.

Is there not a voice in your head, just a little one, asking about how valid, accurate or genuinely comparable these self-recorded times are? Or are you just going to accept it at face value with no reservations or provisos because it supports your preset opinion?

Since you're asking, for Porte there's Ax3 Domaines in 2013 and the Col d'Eze TT at the 2013 Paris-Nice but I bet you've got an excuse tucked away somewhere

Danielson had to dope just to win a National Collegiate MTB title, so expecting him to reach Armstrong's level was never going to happen, even with Ferrari's assistance.

 

[Parker]

Since you're asking, for Porte there's Ax3 Domaines in 2013 and the Col d'Eze TT at the 2013 Paris-Nice but I bet you've got an excuse tucked away somewhere

If you think that was climbing like Armstrong, then you never saw Armstrong.

Danielson had to dope just to win a National Collegiate MTB title, so expecting him to reach Armstrong's level was never going to happen, even with Ferrari's assistance.

Yet there he is. Faster than Armstrong. How's that happen?

 

[Parker]

Porte Ax3. Lead Froome all the way up, then attacked and came 2nd.

His time was close to Lance but rode out the front longer than Lance. So again you're just making stuff up. Botlogic at its best.

A minute slower than Armstrong who was beaten by Roberto Laiseka. Does Armstrong at his best get beaten by Laiseka? No he doesn't.

It's like comparing One Direction's best song with a forgotten album track form Help! and claiming they are the musical equals of the Beatles.

 

[thehog]

A minute slower than Armstrong who was beaten by Roberto Laiseka. Does Armstrong at his best get beaten by Laiseka? No he doesn't.

It's like comparing One Direction's best song with a forgotten album track form Help! and claiming they are the musical equals of the Beatles.

On the line with a 2005 Ullrich. Almost as fast as 2010 Contador. And Porte lead just about the whole way up.

Never seen anything like it. Awesome clean riding

 

[42x16ss]

On the line with a 2005 Ullrich. Almost as fast as 2010 Contador. And Porte lead just about the whole way up.

Never seen anything like it. Awesome clean riding

Don't forget that he sat up, checked where everyone was, realised they were all blown away and shot off again!!

Cleans I tells ya!

 

[thehog]

Don't forget that he sat up, checked where everyone was, realised they were all blown away and shot off again!!

Cleans I tells ya!

Couldn't be any cleaner! Cleaner than One Direction.... apparently