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Bernie's eyesore said:Most suspect performance of the year from Quintana but we won't hear a word about it in here.
The Hitch said:You do know that Quintana was long ago seen as the most promising young rider in ages?
Remember this?the sceptic said:Quintana should outclimb Porte easily, however he has no buisness almost beating Tony Martin in a TT.
Plus the fact that Nairo excels in MTTs. He also took massive time in the descents.hrotha said:Remember this?
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=22002
This was one hilly ITT with bad weather. There's only so much you can extrapolate from it. If Quintana repeats this performance in other ITTs, then there'll be an alarm going off.
Keep in mind however that Movistar is not exactly seen as a clean team.
the sceptic said:Quintana should outclimb Porte easily, however he has no buisness almost beating Tony Martin in a TT.
Is it more suspicious than Mollema's ITT last year?The Hitch said:Quintanas win is very suspicious. I'm certainly not buying his tt performance. But the comments from sky fans equating this to Wiggins froome and Porte display a tremendous ammount of ignorance.
Netserk said:Is it more suspicious than Mollema's ITT last year?
Netserk said:Is it more suspicious than Mollema's ITT last year?
jilbiker said:ITT is where one sees the biggest effect of juice. Let me give examples
- Contardor beat Cancellera in TDF ITT
- Basso blew everyone in ITT in the Giro
- Chicken legs was top 20 in ITT in TDF
- Rogers was world ITT champion in his USADA juice years
- Quintana???? nearly beats martin
- Henao has a top ten in ITT
No doubt now that skyborgs are juiced but the Peleton has also stepped up the game. I have always had my suspicions about Movistar, I wonder if they have any anti-doping policy? I really at this time have nothing to say about juice in the peloton. Sky getting away with it? Then let the juice party continue. I think the peloton has found out the secret sky juice. Maybe Rogers spilled the beans when he left (to get back on them for abandoning him).
Sky have no bullies like Lance, so I expect the playing field will level out. I say that by TDF there will be many possibilities of a winner. Quintana, Valverde, Purito.
jilbiker said:snipped..
Rogers spilled the beans when he left (to get back on them for abandoning him).
more snipping..
Well, he would probably be too busy helping Contador build schools.Dazed and Confused said:Don't think so. Rogers is hardcore omerta. Even 14 days in a Mossad basement wouldn't reveal anything.
Libertine Seguros said:However, they have made noises about imitating the way Sky go about things over the last few months, and aside from the fact that the very fact I posted that in the Clinic means people will assume it's a snide aside at Sky implying widespread team doping, what that means is inevitably more centralizing of processes, better organization and so on. Which could, in all reality, amount to a stepping up from a conservative "go your own way, we'll tie the strings together" policy to a more organized program.
hrotha said:Remember this?
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=22002
This was one hilly ITT with bad weather. There's only so much you can extrapolate from it. If Quintana repeats this performance in other ITTs, then there'll be an alarm going off.
Keep in mind however that Movistar is not exactly seen as a clean team.