Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[Dear Wiggo]

A head 2 head between the two on CQ taking into account just mountains stages gives Quintana a lead of 7-4, no selection on race type also gives Quintana a lead of 21-20.

The big reason Quintana is down as the top favorite though is because of all his accomplishments in his 1st Tour. The new Skyborg Porte that started showing itself last year should be able to give Quintana a good challenge in the Giro though, prevent the race from being a walk for him.

IMO Quintana will still be able to handle and dispatch him when it counts though.

My understanding is the Giro mountains are steeper - is that correct? In that scenario I give the advantage to the lighter Quintana.

 

[Afrank]

My understanding is the Giro mountains are steeper - is that correct? In that scenario I give the advantage to the lighter Quintana.

Yes, Giro climbs are steeper and harder.

 

[42x16ss]

What if Brailsford lets Richie have some of what Wigans and the Froome-borg have been taking? Porte 3-4 kilos lighter would be a scary opponent

 

[blackcat]

Sky showed some restraint last year with Wiggins pulling out of the Giro and Porte dropping off the TDF podium with barely a grimace. They would attract too much attention if they win multiple GTs in one season. So I would say Porte has little chance of winning the Giro.

actually, the day after Sky really hit the peloton and demonstrated their dominance, the peloton decided to gang up on Sky and hit them from when the flag went down, and Sky were caught out, and Richie had to pull for a long period to keep Wigans, sry, Froome, within striking distance for the final ascent.

then when Richie was behind, Brailsford told him to sit-up, and save his powder for another day, and not try and limit his losses for his own GC position, but sacrifice his own GC time.

 

[blackcat]

What if Brailsford lets Richie have some of what Wigans and the Froome-borg have been taking? Porte 3-4 kilos lighter would be a scary opponent

will lose a bit off his chrono, which is at the top echelon of the GC competitors.

 

[blackcat]

My understanding is the Giro mountains are steeper - is that correct? In that scenario I give the advantage to the lighter Quintana.

the Pyrenees are steeper than the Alps. I dont know how steep the Italian Alp and Dolomiti are but

/gud gramma blackcat

 

[42x16ss]

will lose a bit off his chrono, which is at the top echelon of the GC competitors.

Didn't effect Froome or Wigans and imagine how he'd go on the climbs, Porte would get airborne cresting!

 

[Ripper]

will lose a bit off his chrono, which is at the top echelon of the GC competitors.

Erm, no. Like Wiggo and Froome, he'd lose the weight and somehow improve his chrono.

 

[will10]

I dont get why most people have Quintana as the giro favourite. Was he really a better climber than Richie last year? And I also get the feeling that now that Richie is set free to ride for himself, he will be even better this year.

Porte isn't proven riding for GC over three weeks. Yet. Even as a domestique he's tended to have some bad days so it will be interesting to see if he can be on the money every day that counts.

actually, the day after Sky really hit the peloton and demonstrated their dominance, the peloton decided to gang up on Sky and hit them from when the flag went down, and Sky were caught out, and Richie had to pull for a long period to keep Wigans, sry, Froome, within striking distance for the final ascent.

then when Richie was behind, Brailsford told him to sit-up, and save his powder for another day, and not try and limit his losses for his own GC position, but sacrifice his own GC time.

Not for a long time he didn't, god knows how long he held the Movistar train at 2 minutes before he finally sat up.

 

[bobbins]

actually, the day after Sky really hit the peloton and demonstrated their dominance, the peloton decided to gang up on Sky and hit them from when the flag went down, and Sky were caught out, and Richie had to pull for a long period to keep Wigans, sry, Froome, within striking distance for the final ascent.

then when Richie was behind, Brailsford told him to sit-up, and save his powder for another day, and not try and limit his losses for his own GC position, but sacrifice his own GC time.

Brailsford nearly broke down himself that day. Spent most of the day on the phone to Shane Sutton asking for advice because the guys in the team cars didn't know what to do.

 

[The Hitch]

Brailsford nearly broke down himself that day. Spent most of the day on the phone to Shane Sutton asking for advice because the guys in the team cars didn't know what to do.

It was probably Eusebio Unzue on the other side of the line, considering how it played out.

 

[blackcat]

Brailsford nearly broke down himself that day. Spent most of the day on the phone to Shane Sutton asking for advice because the guys in the team cars didn't know what to do.

why they need chris horner IN THE TEAM CAR as the ds. Give him the 7 figure contract, not as rider, but as the directeur in the car.

they failed on their risk management the day before, it was not worth Richie and Froome trying to get an extra 30 seconds apiece on their rivals and draw down on their energy stores for the entire three weeks. And they paid the price this next day. It was a false economy. Armstrong and Ferrari and Bruyneel never would have made such a juvenile mistake. The race is three weeks, not the one-day.

Its about the risk management, no need to bury yourself on one day to gain an extra 30 seconds, when you could be risking a jour sans, or, as we saw, the inability to control the peloton on the following day

 

[blackcat]

Not for a long time he didn't, god knows how long he held the Movistar train at 2 minutes before he finally sat up.

when asked by sir DB. he was not told to do it immediately, he was defending his own GC podium place.

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

why they need chris horner IN THE TEAM CAR as the ds. Give him the 7 figure contract, not as rider, but as the directeur in the car.

they failed on their risk management the day before, it was not worth Richie and Froome trying to get an extra 30 seconds apiece on their rivals and draw down on their energy stores for the entire three weeks. And they paid the price this next day. It was a false economy. Armstrong and Ferrari and Bruyneel never would have made such a juvenile mistake. The race is three weeks, not the one-day.

Its about the risk management, no need to bury yourself on one day to gain an extra 30 seconds, when you could be risking a jour sans, or, as we saw, the inability to control the peloton on the following day

Nice......

 

[JRanton]

Having won the queen stage at the Tour Down Under on his way to fourth overall, Porte admitted he is happy with his growing form despite coming up against stiff opposition in the form of Valverde.

"The uphill finishes suited him down to the ground and hat's off to him he's in great shape. For us it's good to see where we're at. I know where I'm at and I'm nowhere near at 100 percent. So to come away with second this week is a nice indication of what I can do this season."

He wasn't particularly great at Oman last year and then turned into Richieborg at Paris-Nice. Just needs to get back to Monaco now to meet up with Froome and Cound after their South Africa trip...

 

[Dear Wiggo]

He wasn't particularly great at Oman last year and then turned into Richieborg at Paris-Nice. Just needs to get back to Monaco now to meet up with Froome and Cound after their South Africa trip...

Kerrison lives in Monaco, can't forget his training advice.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

He wasn't particularly great at Oman last year and then turned into Richieborg at Paris-Nice. Just needs to get back to Monaco now to meet up with Froome and Cound after their South Africa trip...

Yea, sounds like the 11 hour trains stints around tassieland ain't enough to get the boy in shape.

 

[BYOP88]

Bad bag for Porte last night?

 

[TailWindHome]

Originally Posted by JRanton View Post
He wasn't particularly great at Oman last year and then turned into Richieborg at Paris-Nice. Just needs to get back to Monaco now to meet up with Froome and Cound after their South Africa trip..

So...Tenerife's a red herring?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

So...Tenerife's a red herring?

que

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[hfer07]

WHat is Porte ill of to pull out in such way-and then be ready within 48 hours??

that's BS - they better get their plot together because is looking so obvious ..

 

[del1962]

WHat is Porte ill of to pull out in such way-and then be ready within 48 hours??

that's BS - they better get their plot together because is looking so obvious ..

What on earth are you talking about?

Obvioulsy they hope he recovers to be able to train in 48 hours, it is you who is talking bs, troll boy.

 

[del1962]

Bad bag for Porte last night?

stop trolling cowboy

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Keep it cool del, rewatch the Old Trafford game

 

[del1962]

Keep it cool del, rewatch the Old Trafford game

Man U are so much more likable under Moyes, I don't think I have ever seen 3 penalties for the opposition there before.