Riders with the same characteristics.

[May0maniac]

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Sagan = Bettini but without any of the class or awesomeness.

Bettini wasn't as fast, but better in hilly races.

The funny thing is that Sagan has already won more races as a pro, but Bettini always shined in the big races.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

Bettini = GVA + 1 (the plus one being his result in races)

 

[KyoGrey]

Re: Riders with the same charatistics.

Juanjo Lobato & Carlos Barbero.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

Re: Re:

Sagan = Bettini but without any of the class or awesomeness.

Bettini wasn't as fast, but better in hilly races.

The funny thing is that Sagan has already won more races as a pro, but Bettini always shined in the big races.

At Sagan's age, Bettini won 5 small races and had a top 5 in LBL. That's it.
2000 (Sagan's 2016) was his breakthrough year with LBL win and a TdF stage.
Sagan has won 4 green jerseys, 4 TdF stages, has 3 monument podiums, won quite some semi-classics, ...

 

[SeriousSam]

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Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador.

Sure

Yes, not a particularly good match. Armstrong was a more consistently great climber and especially time trialler.

 

[portugal11]

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Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador.

Sure

Yes, not a particularly good match. Armstrong was a more consistently great climber and especially time trialler.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[Pantani_lives]

Hincapie = Thomas
Hamilton = Porte
Zabel = Freire
Olano = Dumoulin
Museeuw = Degenkolb
Bartoli = Gilbert
Bahamontes = Quintana
Merckx = Kelderman*

*That's Axel Merckx

 

[hrotha]

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Bahamontes = Quintana

Bahamontes is rolling in his grave right now.

And yes, I'm aware he's alive. That's how bad this is.

 

[WheelofGear]

Albasini and Valverde.

Valverde is of course a lot better. But they look like brothers, almost twins.

 

[Pentacycle]

@Wheelofgear If you don't go for looks, Alaphilippe is more similar to Valverde than Albasini will ever be.

 

[WheelofGear]

That's true. ^^

But he could be closer to Albasini as well. We really don't know yet.

 

[rghysens]

Re:

Hincapie = Thomas
Hamilton = Porte
Zabel = Freire
Olano = Dumoulin
Museeuw = Degenkolb
Bartoli = Gilbert
Bahamontes = Quintana
Merckx = Kelderman*

*That's Axel Merckx

Baldato = Van Avermaet

 

[Ruby United]

Re: Riders with the same charatistics.

... and then there's this Sagan category - super talent who finds in each race someone with better sprint, endurance, climbing, punchy explosiveness, team support... and if not, here comes motokiller

Yeah. I think the closest you can get to Sagan is Kwiatkowski. Same age. Both very multi-talented. Opportunistic. Great bike handlers. And scary in a technical prologue.

Kwai is a little better as a climber and on the steep stuff while Sagan is better in a flat sprint and on the cobbles.

I think Degenkolb is closer to Sagan

Both young and talented as you mentioned, both very fast, both can get over climbs (though Sagan is quite a bit better at climbing) both good at cobbles.

I would say Degenkolb is a slightly dimmed down version of Sagan

 

[Ruby United]

Re: Re:

Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador.

Sure

Yes, not a particularly good match. Armstrong was a more consistently great climber and especially time trialler.

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

No ways Contador.

To be honest though, Armstrong is pretty unique. Perhaps Anquetil is similar to him? Aggressive and won all the TT's

 

[Arredondo]

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For the current cyclist Degenkolb and Kristoff are maybe the most famous example, while the Yates brothers seem to swap characteristics between them, and I can't help thinking sometimes that Purito is a better Dani Moreno.

I can't help thinking sometimes that Dani Moreno could be just as good as Purito if he didn't have to slave for him.

Moreno got plenty of opportunities during his career at Katusha. Just not good enough as a climber, or consistent enough.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Re: Riders with the same charatistics.

Serious sam out fishing again I see

 

[Libertine Seguros]

Richeze = Rojas

 

[Dazed and Confused]

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Bahamontes = Quintana

Bahamontes is rolling in his grave right now.

And yes, I'm aware he's alive. That's how bad this is.

Agree, pathetic comparison.

Quintana is mostly a wheel-sucker who can perform well in one or two stages from 5-6km out.

Behamontes is in a completely different class.

 

[Jagartrott]

Can someone correct the title please?

 

[Bushman]

Re: Re:

For the current cyclist Degenkolb and Kristoff are maybe the most famous example, while the Yates brothers seem to swap characteristics between them, and I can't help thinking sometimes that Purito is a better Dani Moreno.

I can't help thinking sometimes that Dani Moreno could be just as good as Purito if he didn't have to slave for him.

Moreno got plenty of opportunities during his career at Katusha. Just not good enough as a climber, or consistent enough.

He didn't get 'plenty' of opportunities in the important races.

 

[Arredondo]

Re: Re:

For the current cyclist Degenkolb and Kristoff are maybe the most famous example, while the Yates brothers seem to swap characteristics between them, and I can't help thinking sometimes that Purito is a better Dani Moreno.

I can't help thinking sometimes that Dani Moreno could be just as good as Purito if he didn't have to slave for him.

Moreno got plenty of opportunities during his career at Katusha. Just not good enough as a climber, or consistent enough.

He didn't get 'plenty' of opportunities in the important races.

He did.

Vuelta 2013, Ardennes classics 2014, Tirreno 2014 ...

Way more then any other good domestique. And he showed in those races he's good, but not a consistent team leader. Not like Purito is.

 

[Pentacycle]

Re:

Richeze = Rojas

This isn't the 'riders with similar placings thread'

 

[Fernandez]

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Bahamontes = Quintana

Bahamontes is rolling in his grave right now.

And yes, I'm aware he's alive. That's how bad this is.

Agree, pathetic comparison.

Quintana is mostly a wheel-sucker who can perform well in one or two stages from 5-6km out.

Behamontes is in a completely different class.

http://ciclismo.as.com/ciclismo/imagenes/2015/09/24/mas_ciclismo/1443061615_772023_1443061759_noticia_grande.jpg

Bahamontes and Van Impe met one week ago in Toledo.

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

Mollema and Contador for the style on the climbs...
To be serious, Pantani "the angel of mountain" and Riccò "the Devil of mountain", Riccò and Cunego in 2007-2008

 

[Angliru]

For some reason I see a similarity in the out of the saddle climbing styles of Contador and Iban Mayo.