Riders with the same characteristics.

[WheelofGear]

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Marianne Vos - Eddy Merckx

Doesn't Vos has any weaknesses?

I've always considered her to be a Kelly-kind of rider, not a Merckx. Her TT is good, but not scary.

 

[Pentacycle]

Vos = Valverde, not Merckx.

 

[sir fly]

Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Vos = Valverde, not Merckx.

Valverde is a better match for PFP than Vos, as a road rider at least. Vos is too good in the flat, windy and cobbled type events.

Kelly I'll concede might match Vos in skillset best.

Sagan = Bettini but without any of the class or awesomeness.

Giorgia Bronzini = Óscar Freire. Nobody knows she's there until she suddenly pops out to win in a sprint where most of the real sprinters have been burned off.

 

[DFA123]

Is it too early to suggest a similrity between Landa and Pantani.

Both amazing high mountain climbers that can't do much else. Bit of a rebellious streak as well.

 

[jens_attacks]

Landaaaaaaniiiiii

 

[Pentacycle]

Landa may also have some similarities to old Cunego.

 

[Billie]

Re: Re:

Vos = Valverde, not Merckx.

Valverde is a better match for PFP than Vos, as a road rider at least. Vos is too good in the flat, windy and cobbled type events.

Kelly I'll concede might match Vos in skillset best.

Sagan = Bettini but without any of the class or awesomeness.

Bettini is 10X as arrogant as Sagan

 

[Billie]

Carlos Betancur and Salvatore Commesso

 

[Libertine Seguros]

OK, Sagan = Cândido Barbosa

 

[Billie]

Matthew Goss - Baden Cooke. Huge win quite early in their career (MSR/Green Jersey). Lots of last calls afterwards

 

[Cance > TheRest]

In 2015 Landa has been very remniscent of Piepoli in his Saunier Duval years - basically winning when he wanted to.
Also, Piepoli was the only match for RoboBasso in the 2006 Giro (sorry Gibo), even taking a few stage wins, like Landa did against Contador this year.

 

[sir fly]

Bjarne Riis and Chris Horner.

 

[BigMac]

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OK, Sagan = Cândido Barbosa

Haha, this will become a classic.

Thanks Gung Ho Gun.

 

[Red Rick]

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Lance Armstrong and Alberto Contador.

Sure

 

[42x16ss]

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^ I was gonna make a joke about how Yates and Yates seems pretty similar. Though I suppose identical twins don't quite count in this...

LOL. I didnt even think about those 2..

Rodriguez-Moreno
Aru-Contador
Mollema-C.A Sørensen
Rolland- A. Schleck ((
Fuglsang-Rui Costa

I was going to bold your Fuglesang - Rui Costa comparison as being very inaccurate, but then I realized I had to bold the others too.

Well, its super hard to find riders with exact same abilities, styles on bikes, racing mindset etc., but all pairs I think as at least one thing in common. And if Moreno and Rodriguez is very inaccurate, I have a hard time seeing what is accurate....

I think Rod-Moreno is pretty self-explanatory, exact same abilities, cant TT for good, punchy climbers.

Aru and Contador got the same racing mindset, attacking when they have anything left at every given opportunity. Their style is different, but not totally off, nose plasters (!!) and a real type of climbing body. Contador can more than defend himself against the clock, but Aru isnt bad either. Grit and grind type of riders, never giving up, always attacking. I think its somewhat accurate.

Mollema and C.A is halfway a joke, but they have a few similarities. Both diesels climbers and both extremely ugly on this bike having. Probably the two riders I least enjoy climbing.

Rolland and Schleck are both true grimpeurs and extremely stylistic to look at climbing. More or less same pedalling style and no movements. I remember both for their big attacks in the high mountains, but at the same time, both cant ride a bike when not in the Tour (or Giro in one instance). Sloppy, lazy or just having a hard time peaking and maintaining it, I dno.

Huh? Did you watch the Giro last year? Rolland came 4th overall even after his usual schtick of losing big time in the first week. If he didn't have to go on crazy attacks because of it, chances are he would have made the podium.

Edit: unless you mean good at the Giro once each...

 

[gunara]

Ulissi and Slagter?
I like this thread, makes me realize that it's difficult to find two riders who is exactly of similar charasteristic with each other, you thought they were very similar, then you start to think about the differences when trying to answer.

 

[Alexandre B.]

Anthony Delaplace and Amets Txurruka.

 

[rghysens]

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Sagan = Bettini but without any of the class or awesomeness.

Bettini wasn't as fast, but better in hilly races.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Michael Boogerd and Dan Martin.

Both are best in long classics with lots of medium length climbs. Both can climb mountains quite well, but don't threaten the world's best climbers. Both fade as a Grand Tour goes into the third week. Both can't time trial or be up front on cobbles. Both can't rely on a sprint. Both have the same gangly uncomfortable style on a bike. Both have more teeth than face.

Ulissi and Slagter?
I like this thread, makes me realize that it's difficult to find two riders who is exactly of similar charasteristic with each other, you thought they were very similar, then you start to think about the differences when trying to answer.

Good call. Time trial ability varies though.

 

[Buffalo Soldier]

How do you compare Kristoff/Degenkolb with Boonen?
At age 27, Boonen already had a better palmares than those two, but they do win the same kind of races with a comparable racing style (being able to win a bunch sprint but not waiting for it)

 

[Cance > TheRest]

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How do you compare Kristoff/Degenkolb with Boonen?
At age 27, Boonen already had a better palmares than those two, but they do win the same kind of races with a comparable racing style (being able to win a bunch sprint but not waiting for it)

Not a bad comparison.
I think Boonen, in his prime, was more of a specialist in the cobbles really. While Degenkolb and Kristoff are top 5 cobbles specialists, they have never been THE best on the cobbles. Boonen had that status in 2005-2009 until Cancellara came along.
However, the tactics used and the sprinting abilities are very alike for all three riders.

 

[rghysens]

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How do you compare Kristoff/Degenkolb with Boonen?
At age 27, Boonen already had a better palmares than those two, but they do win the same kind of races with a comparable racing style (being able to win a bunch sprint but not waiting for it)

In my opinion, the best comparison yet made.

 

[Bushman]

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How do you compare Kristoff/Degenkolb with Boonen?
At age 27, Boonen already had a better palmares than those two, but they do win the same kind of races with a comparable racing style (being able to win a bunch sprint but not waiting for it)

Degenkolb and Boonen, not really. Degenkolb is way better uphill, I could never see Boonen winning uphill sprints like in Tour of Dubai this year.

Boonen and Kristoff are probably more alone although Kristoff doesn't have the raw power on the flat and cobbles that Boonen had in his prime.

 

[Finn84]

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Btw, has there any been a sprinter as pure as Kittel with the same strength? As sprinter who is known for his great speed but can't handle just the smallest obstacle whatever that is a tiny hill, a small bump, some cobbles or a chaotic cross wind stage. Someone who makes Cavendish look like Virenque.

How about Kirsipuu in his glory days? At least when it comes to hills, Kirsipuu was decent on cobbles.