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Stybar and Vakoc are really intelligent picks imo. They both have an outside chance if it's raced hard early on the 1km climbs and becomes more of an anaerobic challenge where everyone is on the limit before the final climb - a bit like Strade Bianche. If it turns into more of a cagey climbers race, they don't have much hope, but then neither would Kreuziger anyway.Jancouver said:Czech team:
Konig (RR + TT)
Stybar (RR)
Vakoc (RR)
Barta (RR + TT)
(no place for Kreuziger)
Rollthedice said:Nibali said the climb is similar to Ghisallo.
Really don't think Stybar has any kind of chance here. Should the scenario you mention arise then Stybar will be dropped anyway because 4km at 8.5%, and then a 3km 6% grind is slightly different to a 1km wall. He is there to protect König on the flat, as is Barta. Vakoc with a free role. Kreuziger is the only Czech rider with an obvious palmares in hilly/mountainous classics (was excellent this year at LBL and has won Amstel; would excel in a chaotic race with few powerful teams like this I reckon) yet wasn't picked. Honestly makes no sense to me unless he asked not to be.DFA123 said:Stybar and Vakoc are really intelligent picks imo. They both have an outside chance if it's raced hard early on the 1km climbs and becomes more of an anaerobic challenge where everyone is on the limit before the final climb - a bit like Strade Bianche. If it turns into more of a cagey climbers race, they don't have much hope, but then neither would Kreuziger anyway.Jancouver said:Czech team:
Konig (RR + TT)
Stybar (RR)
Vakoc (RR)
Barta (RR + TT)
(no place for Kreuziger)
It's a stupid idea to protect one rider in this team because countries like this need anything but a controlled race and therfore not so many helpers. Moreover if they need to have a protected rider why not kreuziger? He is the way better classics rider and also the slightly better climber in my opinion.Brullnux said:Really don't think Stybar has any kind of chance here. Should the scenario you mention arise then Stybar will be dropped anyway because 4km at 8.5%, and then a 3km 6% grind is slightly different to a 1km wall. He is there to protect König on the flat, as is Barta. Vakoc with a free role. Kreuziger is the only Czech rider with an obvious palmares in hilly/mountainous classics (was excellent this year at LBL and has won Amstel; would excel in a chaotic race with few powerful teams like this I reckon) yet wasn't picked. Honestly makes no sense to me unless he asked not to be.DFA123 said:Stybar and Vakoc are really intelligent picks imo. They both have an outside chance if it's raced hard early on the 1km climbs and becomes more of an anaerobic challenge where everyone is on the limit before the final climb - a bit like Strade Bianche. If it turns into more of a cagey climbers race, they don't have much hope, but then neither would Kreuziger anyway.Jancouver said:Czech team:
Konig (RR + TT)
Stybar (RR)
Vakoc (RR)
Barta (RR + TT)
(no place for Kreuziger)
Jancouver said:Czech team:
Konig (RR + TT)
Stybar (RR)
Vakoc (RR)
Barta (RR + TT)
(no place for Kreuziger)
Valv.Piti said:However you want to slice it, Kreuziger not riding is ludicrous. Without a doubt the rider with the best shot on the Czech team and actually has a palmarés in these kinda races. He must've told he didn't want to go
jens_attacks said:Jancouver said:Czech team:
Konig (RR + TT)
Stybar (RR)
Vakoc (RR)
Barta (RR + TT)
(no place for Kreuziger)
you have any source to share?
because this doesnt make any sense...
jens_attacks said:Probably has something with zika then.
Jancouver said:jens_attacks said:Probably has something with zika then.
Not really. There are only two possibilities:
1) Czech Olympic Federation made a deal with UCI/WADA to keep him out of the Olympics when he got "cleared" for his "thyroid issues."
2) As I posted in another thread, he is heavily disliked by the Czech cycling community because, in London 2012, he was clearly working for Vino and ever since, most Czech fans would tell you that he is not a team player and that should be on team Kazakhstan instead.
therefore, all that "I need to be ready for Vuelta" is a pure BS.
Asero831 said:last year GVA was leading the field to the top of Jaizkibel until that infamous motor incident
what is his chance in Rio given that San Sebastian is steeper than the Rio route?
Recovering from an anaerobic effort happens aerobically. GvA isn't gonna be near the front on a climb which has 4km at over 8% if its ridden properly. And it willDFA123 said:Asero831 said:last year GVA was leading the field to the top of Jaizkibel until that infamous motor incident
what is his chance in Rio given that San Sebastian is steeper than the Rio route?
I think he has an outside chance. The key for him and Belgium (Gilbert as well), perhaps counter-intuitively, will be to make the race really hard from the start. They need all those relatively small bumps in the first 170km to be ridden really hard, as tough anaerobic efforts. Anaerobic efforts like that will take way less out of the legs of someone like GVA or Gilbert than they will out of climbers who specialize in riding much more aerobically.
He's shown in San Sebastian and Strade Bianche that he climb well enough - he just needs to make sure that by the time the big climb comes, the pure climbers are already feeling the effects of a hard race. Otherwise they'll drop him like a stone. And the puncheur climbers, who will be able to handle hard anaerobic efforts, like Valverde and Martin aren't going to attack from the foot of the climb - they'll just look to gain a smallish gap near the top - a gap that a rider like GVA could close on the run into the line.