Rujano can win this Giro, believes Savio

[El Pistolero]

Song might seem familiar, cuz it's the same melody(cover with other text in fact) as Ti Amo by Umberto Tozi http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBFo9XCmSXs

lyrics:
Tu sai il meo eroe
quando ti vedo
superciclista, re delle montagna
Sai proprio tu Marco
Io sono Guido
che ti porta nal cuore
Marco Pantani, ti adoro
Ma tremo d'avante al tuo petto
Io canto e io gioco
come un trovato alla corte d'un re
tuo corragio mi inspira
e mi spingi alla meta
oggi canto da te
sono venuto per vederti
Pantani, ti cheiro tu senta
tu non sai chi sono
sono un cantone sensa preteze
don't know if everything is right because I had to decipher his writing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_hPcCq46Vg

This version is more popular here

 

[Michielveedeebee]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_hPcCq46Vg

This version is more popular here

yeah but belcanto version >>>>>>> Umberto

 

[The Hitch]

yeah but belcanto version >>>>>>> Umberto

Yeah, the one about Marco is much more beautiful. Its the bald head of Pantani smiling and nodding up and down that does it for me personally.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Incredible rujano!!!!

 

[roundabout]

He will finish second.

 

[The Hitch]

Rujano should, from now on, just wait till 13 and 14, and NOT ATTACK, but stay with Contador as long as he can. Without the intial attack and on steeper climbs he might just could do it.

Gain time on the rest, maybe 2 minutes on 13 and 2 on Zonc, and hence get back onto podium.

Then hope Contador gets dqd

 

[rzombie1988]

If I had GT aspirations, I would just follow Contador the whole race. Guranteed 2nd place.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

f*ck androni for not having vicioso and others help him out in sterraot stage where he lost more than 5 minutes.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Rujano should, from now on, just wait till 13 and 14, and NOT ATTACK, but stay with Contador as long as he can. Without the intial attack and on steeper climbs he might just could do it.

Gain time on the rest, maybe 2 minutes on 13 and 2 on Zonc, and hence get back onto podium.

Then hope Contador gets dqd

Yeah stage 13-16 is where this race in mainly decided.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

rujano in an interview on rai said I'mn so happy I can't believe it. I'm not even in topshape I will be next week in my vuelta colombia 2009 shape _O_

Oh god I can't wait!!

 

[Bala Verde]

rujano in an interview on rai said I'mn so happy I can't believe it. I'm not even in topshape I will be next week in my vuelta colombia 2009 shape _O_

Oh god I can't wait!!

You should make that entire quote and your reaction your signature...

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Rujano should, from now on, just wait till 13 and 14, and NOT ATTACK, but stay with Contador as long as he can. Without the intial attack and on steeper climbs he might just could do it.

Gain time on the rest, maybe 2 minutes on 13 and 2 on Zonc, and hence get back onto podium.

Then hope Contador gets dqd

Disagree - I suspect it was the fact he had already attacked and had an effective head start on the Contador attack which allowed him to stick with it for so long. Had he been in the pack when it all kicked off, I'm not sure I believe he'd have put 50 seconds in to all the others on his own.

 

[Parrulo]

Disagree - I suspect it was the fact he had already attacked and had an effective head start on the Contador attack which allowed him to stick with it for so long. Had he been in the pack when it all kicked off, I'm not sure I believe he'd have put 50 seconds in to all the others on his own.

this is a good observation. still great performance by rujano

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Disagree - I suspect it was the fact he had already attacked and had an effective head start on the Contador attack which allowed him to stick with it for so long. Had he been in the pack when it all kicked off, I'm not sure I believe he'd have put 50 seconds in to all the others on his own.

rujano doesn't have explosiveness of contador but in steep climbs that isn't needed and from now on the easy climbs lay behind us in this giro

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Disagree - I suspect it was the fact he had already attacked and had an effective head start on the Contador attack which allowed him to stick with it for so long. Had he been in the pack when it all kicked off, I'm not sure I believe he'd have put 50 seconds in to all the others on his own.

this.
It helps also, that when ac caught rujano they were close to the easier sections. Rujano did follow the initial accelration on the steeper stuff tho, had scarponi survivded that, he may have stuck with ac also.

No way rujano would have taken 50 secs if ac didn't go.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

rujano doesn't have explosiveness of contador but in steep climbs that isn't needed and from now on the easy climbs lay behind us in this giro

This is true, considering the climb today I think Rujano did do a very good job. I however don't believe he will be better then ac next week.

 

[Sophistic]

Rujano will win the Giro, in June.

 

[The Hitch]

rujano doesn't have explosiveness of contador but in steep climbs that isn't needed and from now on the easy climbs lay behind us in this giro

this.
It helps also, that when ac caught rujano they were close to the easier sections. Rujano did follow the initial accelration on the steeper stuff tho, had scarponi survivded that, he may have stuck with ac also.

No way rujano would have taken 50 secs if ac didn't go.

I accepted this explanation at first.

But in the race thread Dekker T has offered a counter explanation, and I think he has a point.

Contador and Scarponis intial bridge wasnt all that. Nibali waited in the peloton tactically. Waiting while others attacked is what won him the Vuelta, firstly on that stage Barredo won, where he let the peloton do the work, and then pacing himself up Bola. They felt that staying as a group in the wind would be better than fighting Contador from that far out.

Then once Scarponi and Contador made the bridge, Contador launched his big attack. Rujano followed, Scarponi didnt.

Contador would try about half a dozen attacks from then till the 2k mark. And RUjano matched EVERY ONE. Finally at 1.5k he managed to drop Rujano but not crack him and Jose came in a few seconds down.

So it wasnt a case of Rujano hanging on because he attacked earlier. I think he would have matched Contadors first attack. Why? Because he was able to hold on to all the other attacks Contador would launch against him, including the one against Scarponi.

Thats just how i see it atm, though my view of it could change again.

 

[c&cfan]

I accepted this explanation at first.

But in the race thread Dekker T has offered a counter explanation, and I think he has a point.

Contador and Scarponis intial bridge wasnt all that. Nibali waited in the peloton tactically. Waiting while others attacked is what won him the Vuelta, firstly on that stage Barredo won, where he let the peloton do the work, and then pacing himself up Bola. They felt that staying as a group in the wind would be better than fighting Contador from that far out.

Then once Scarponi and Contador made the bridge, Contador launched his big attack. Rujano followed, Scarponi didnt.

Contador would try about half a dozen attacks from then till the 2k mark. And RUjano matched EVERY ONE. Finally at 1.5k he managed to drop Rujano but not crack him and Jose came in a few seconds down.

So it wasnt a case of Rujano hanging on because he attacked earlier. I think he would have matched Contadors first attack. Why? Because he was able to hold on to all the other attacks Contador would launch against him, including the one against Scarponi.

Thats just how i see it atm, though my view of it could change again.

no sir... if he was in the begining with ac, he would've been totally burned before the last atack, losing more time.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Based on what exactly?

Contador tried multiple accelerations against Rujano. Plenty of times Contador had 20/25 meters on him, on the steeper sections of the climb

Everytime Rujano came back.
Care to explain how that is possible then?

Finally, Contador dropped rujano on the flat part, 1.5km from the finish.

I love it when people try different explanations to deny they are wrong

 

[Kwibus]

Actually, to me it seemed that Rujano wasn't paying attention to AC when AC finally dropped him. He looked behind him or down at his bike when AC went for the last time. So Rujano didn't react directly to AC's accelaration which created a gap which was too large for Rujano too close.

Once AC had 5 secs on Rujano the gap stopped growing. Actually Rujano started to close in on AC. So Rujano certainly wasn't dead yet. He was able to stay close to an all out going Contador.

edit: Just watched the replay. Not sure what Rujano was doing when AC finally left him. He was busy looking down at his bike. He did react quite fast, but it's as if he was paying more attention to his bike than to AC.

 

[profff]

I'm pretty sure Lance Armstrong is the most popular one. The only one most people know that is.

probably true
marco pantani though always be the most beloved one among real cycling suiveurs, who like to ride their bikes in the alps and in the pyrenees.
in italy for sure no one can rival in love with him, because he was a great champion , a real nice hearty guy with a tragic story.

in my heart there will always be a place for il pirata.

 

[El Pistolero]

Based on what exactly?

Contador tried multiple accelerations against Rujano. Plenty of times Contador had 20/25 meters on him, on the steeper sections of the climb

Everytime Rujano came back.
Care to explain how that is possible then?

Finally, Contador dropped rujano on the flat part, 1.5km from the finish.

I love it when people try different explanations to deny they are wrong

Fact that he didn't do any work showed Rujano was on his limit the whole time. We all know Contador would have gifted Rujano the stage had he worked together.

 

[La Pandera]

Fact that he didn't do any work showed Rujano was on his limit the whole time. We all know Contador would have gifted Rujano the stage had he worked together.

We don't know that for a fact. Actually Contador would've been more likely to go for the stage win for the bonifications. Interesting though, Contador stated that he wasn't certain that he was first to cross the line. He thought there might have been riders that were from the earlier break that finished ahead of him.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I don't deny Rujano was on his limit. I also don't deny Contador is stronger.

I'm just saying that Rujano wasn't there because "he attacked before and was lucky to hang on until Contador decided it was enough".
Rujano answered multiple accelerations by Contador and by doing that he was stronger than the other 'contendors'