Saturday, June 30 - Tour de France, Prologue: Liege - Liege, 6,4 km

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avanti

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WindLessBreeze said:
:)The news of the day: Other than a Flat tire, any other ' mechanical' suffered by Tony Martin could be considered ' sabotage' against the mechanics......OMEGA?! Beware
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Did Martin have two mechanicals one after the other or was there a repeat of the mechanical in the TV coverage (NBCSports).

What was the mechanical?
 
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I dont see such a big fuss in Samu's poor performance today. He usually sucks at prologues (not this much though to end up behind TT powerhouses such as Urtasun) and gets stronger towards latter stages of a race. I still see him 3-8 same as just before the start of this Tour (which i still think doesnt suit him at all).
 
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FabulousCandelabra

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In 2004 Andreas Klöden came in 19 seconds behind Fabian Cancellara in the prologue in Liege. He went on to finish on the podium in Paris, only beaten by Lance Armstrong.

This year, Andreas Klöden again cam in 19 seconds behind Fabian Cancellara in the prologue in Liege. Armstrong isn't competing anymore. Therefore Klöden will win the Tour de France.
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This rules!

Thanks for schooling me on Mechov whoever that was, I didn't even know he was still racing to win.. thought he was just enjoying the salary that comes with winning a sketchy GT a couple years ago..

I think this was a sign that Sagan isn't quite in form...
 
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Gubby Allen said:
Some intriuging odds for tomorrow. Sag, Gilb, EBH & VV as expected top 4, but beyond that:

Evans & Simon 22/1
Goss 25
Friere 28 & Cavendish 28/1
LLSanschez 33/1
Rojas 40
Nibali 50
Chavanel 66
Petacchi & Greipel 150/1
Kittel 250/1

Bearing in mind this is E/W 1-4 are the bolded sprinters really in that order of capability for getting up over a hill?

Rob Hayles on Eurosport was talking up Griepel as the best of them if he could keep with Gilbert & Chavanel up the hill.
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what about Rui Costa?
 
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Dekker_Tifosi

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Prologue doesn't say much about longer ITT, but some points should be noted.

For example, a lot of classification riders and noted longer TT specialists have lost relatively less in the 2nd part than the first part.
Most notably Wiggins ofcourse, but also Westra, Gesink, Vandenbroeck and some others 'limited' the damage a lot after they already lost a chunk of time at 3km.
 
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MrRoboto

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RHRH19861986 said:
When we see how even Rasmussen improved in the TT from the Tours in 2005 and 2006 to the one in 2007, one can hardly understand why the Schlecks can´t.
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In 2005 Rasmussen had already "time trialed" himself to victory on the 9th stage. I think his main problem was being uncomfortable on the TT bike -- which could be easily solved by actually riding a few kms on it.
 
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DominicDecoco

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Didn't notice it myself but apparently Froome forgot to take out his nose plugs from the warm up.

@takingthepis*

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The Hitch said:
Evans is better, and would take time out of Samu in the tts, but he is not sufficiently better that Samu would not have a chance to contend for the Tour by attacking in the mountains or on the descents. Especially considering Evans may believe what he has been told about only having to worry about Wiggins and be content to give Samu a little rope.
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True in a way, but if Evans is as strong as last year Samu will have a hard time, as Evans is quite versatile. I don't believe in Wiggins, Samu will be able to beat him if his form improves. He himself says he's not worried at all, that he felt much better than in the Dauphine and that his time will come.
 
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FabulousCandelabra said:
This rules!

Thanks for schooling me on Mechov whoever that was, I didn't even know he was still racing to win.. thought he was just enjoying the salary that comes with winning a sketchy GT a couple years ago..

I think this was a sign that Sagan isn't quite in form...
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Because he almost fell around a corner?
 
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The Hitch

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Arnout said:
True in a way, but if Evans is as strong as last year Samu will have a hard time, as Evans is quite versatile. I don't believe in Wiggins, Samu will be able to beat him if his form improves. He himself says he's not worried at all, that he felt much better than in the Dauphine and that his time will come.
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Samu said that? When, where?. There imay be hope yet.

For now though, day at a time.
 
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Gubby Allen said:
Some intriuging odds for tomorrow. Sag, Gilb, EBH & VV as expected top 4, but beyond that:

Evans & Simon 22/1
Goss 25
Friere 28 & Cavendish 28/1
LLSanschez 33/1
Rojas 40
Nibali 50
Chavanel 66
Petacchi & Greipel 150/1
Kittel 250/1

Bearing in mind this is E/W 1-4 are the bolded sprinters really in that order of capability for getting up over a hill?

Rob Hayles on Eurosport was talking up Griepel as the best of them if he could keep with Gilbert & Chavanel up the hill.
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Goss has won GP Plouay. Those are really long odds on Petacchi - I can think of a couple of finishes he was top 2 on which may be of comparable difficulty.
 
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taiwan

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Panda Claws said:
The funny thing is that none of the other GC contenders seem to care about Menchov.

Evans: "I lost time to only one GC contender (Wiggins)."
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"The Silent Assasin"
 
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cineteq

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Panda Claws said:
The funny thing is that none of the other GC contenders seem to care about Menchov.

Evans: "I lost time to only one GC contender (Wiggins)."
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Menchov has become invisible, and most likely remain like that till the end.

Mellow Velo said:
Omen? Evans finished number 13.......
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Omen or not, that his best-ever prologue result in the Tour.
 
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Ferminal

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Waterloo Sunrise said:
15% ramps are the key - if it goes crazy there, it'll be for the puncheurs, but if everyone gets over that together then the stronger sprinters might have some joy.

Sagan probably wins either way.
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Gilbert has to attack the steep part otherwise it's Sagan with a smile. Could at least make it hard for him.
 
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goggalor

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The Hitch said:
lol thats good news (Evans might underrate Menchov)

Also it confirms Evans as an idiot.
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Or he didn't have a chance to examine the stage placings very closely. :rolleyes: In the interview on the frontpage he mentions Menchov as a contender.
 
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