Saturday, June 30 - Tour de France, Prologue: Liege - Liege, 6,4 km

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DominicDecoco said:
Shocking by Sami.
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I was disappointed too. I wonder with poor excuses for mountain stages we have this year at TDF, whether there is enough stages for guys like him to recover the time they'll lose on time trials.

Hopefully this will mean guys like Sanchez and Schleck will attack, attack and then attack some more as soon as the climbs start.
 
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It might just be my memory playing tricks on me but wasn't Evans within 4 seconds of Wiggins in the Dauphine prologue? By my reckoning that means Wiggo has improved his advantage over Evans by a massive 250%! Amazing to think that people said Evans was taking it easy in the Dauphine and Wiggins had peaked too soon.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
It might just be my memory playing tricks on me but wasn't Evans within 4 seconds of Wiggins in the Dauphine prologue? By my reckoning that means Wiggo has improved his advantage over Evans by a massive 250%! Amazing to think that people said Evans was taking it easy in the Dauphine and Wiggins had peaked too soon.
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You are cute.
 
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marioni said:
I was disappointed too. I wonder with poor excuses for mountain stages we have this year at TDF, whether there is enough stages for guys like him to recover the time they'll lose on time trials.
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He'll be better in the second half of the Tour, had to take a week rest after the Dauphiné because of his crash.
 
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While I recon good form now is good, you don't need to be in great form for the prologue to do well in the third week (and final GC).

Don't imagine Sammy will put in woeful ITTs and I expect he and other good GC riders to move up the charts...relative to other GC contenders.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
It might just be my memory playing tricks on me but wasn't Evans within 4 seconds of Wiggins in the Dauphine prologue? By my reckoning that means Wiggo has improved his advantage over Evans by a massive 250%! Amazing to think that people said Evans was taking it easy in the Dauphine and Wiggins had peaked too soon.
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Actually, he hasn't. He has improved his advantage over Evans by 150%, not 250%.

See, the gap of 10 seconds is 250% that of the 4 seconds from the Dauphiné, but in that situation that 4 seconds from the Dauphiné count as 100%, ergo the improvement is only what is on top of that 100%.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
It might just be my memory playing tricks on me but wasn't Evans within 4 seconds of Wiggins in the Dauphine prologue? By my reckoning that means Wiggo has improved his advantage over Evans by a massive 250%! Amazing to think that people said Evans was taking it easy in the Dauphine and Wiggins had peaked too soon.
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Honestly, it was just the prolog. There are hard stages to come, there are three weeks to race.
 
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Even the Wiggins fanboys on ES (harmon and kirby) plus kelly said it was a pretty good time by evans.
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Wiggins fanboys? why because they are english? Evans has always been harmmons second favorite rider behind Gilbert, and he is probably kirbies fav now that armstrong has retired.
 
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Rechtschreibfehler said:
Honestly, it was just the prolog. There are hard stages to come, there are three weeks to race.
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Completely true, but a different issue.

Judging the prologue just as the prologue, some people seem incapable of saying that finishing 7 seconds behind TJVG is not a great result for Cadel.

Interesting to note the difference in approach. When I support someone, I tend to overrate their abilities and rarely be satisfied with their performances.

Some people in this thread seem to enjoy pretending Evans is worse than he is, and treating anything he does as average at absolute worse, but usually a great performance.
 
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Wiggo' Pulled 10 on Cadel, but.....

:)The news of the day: Other than a Flat tire, any other ' mechanical' suffered by Tony Martin could be considered ' sabotage' against the mechanics......OMEGA?! Beware
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Actually, he hasn't. He has improved his advantage over Evans by 150%, not 250%.

See, the gap of 10 seconds is 250% that of the 4 seconds from the Dauphiné, but in that situation that 4 seconds from the Dauphiné count as 100%, ergo the improvement is only what is on top of that 100%.
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Cheers mate, my maths is bad. Working it out though (and apologies for any mathematical errors here), he beat Evans by 1.26 in the Dauphine. So three times 1.26 is 4.18, then multiply that by 2.5 and we see that based on today's result Wiggins should beat Evans by 10.45 in the Tour. I know this system isn't flawless but that's a hell of a deficit for Evans to turn around by any standards.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
Cheers mate, my maths is bad. Working it out though (and apologies for any mathematical errors here), he beat Evans by 1.26 in the Dauphine. So three times 1.26 is 4.18, then multiply that by 2.5 and we see that based on today's result Wiggins should beat Evans by 10.45 in the Tour. I know this system isn't flawless but that's a hell of a deficit for Evans to turn around by any standards.
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Don't make amateurish comments.
 
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Bernie's eyesore said:
Cheers mate, my maths is bad. Working it out though (and apologies for any mathematical errors here), he beat Evans by 1.26 in the Dauphine. So three times 1.26 is 4.18, then multiply that by 2.5 and we see that based on today's result Wiggins should beat Evans by 10.45 in the Tour. I know this system isn't flawless but that's a hell of a deficit for Evans to turn around by any standards.
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Can you do your maths taking stage 1 of 2010 TDF and using as a reference the time of the first GC contender then?

http://www.letour.fr/2010/TDF/LIVE/us/100/classement/index.html
 
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FabulousCandelabra said:
How did Chavanel almost get this stage and Sagan didn't?? Chavanel aint not time trialist..
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wait you're joking right? chavanel is a pretty good time trialist. Much better than sagan...
 
Armchair Cyclist

Armchair Cyclist

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FabulousCandelabra said:
Oh and what I meant to ask is, where has Denis Menchov been??? He just shows up out of nowhere and does well?? I thought he retired!!
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He finished in the top 10 in two GTs last year, he has been in 4 major stage races this year. The more appropriate question might be where have you been?
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FabulousCandelabra
How did Chavanel almost get this stage and Sagan didn't?? Chavanel aint not time trialist..

Virtually stopping after a near fall had something to do with it...



No it didn't. He was already 9 seconds down at that time.
 
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