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Potomac said:By the time I tune into the Giro, Roglic is left all alone. So is Kuss working really hard everyday helping to control the race early and is spent by the end of a stage? Or is a GT proving too much and he is struggling the entire race?
That would make sense since he added at the last minute and wasn't supposed to be at the Giro. Still, he was supposedly going to be co-leader at Cali so you'd think he'd have some form but he certainly hasn't.tobydawq said:Potomac said:By the time I tune into the Giro, Roglic is left all alone. So is Kuss working really hard everyday helping to control the race early and is spent by the end of a stage? Or is a GT proving too much and he is struggling the entire race?
Nope.
It was not too hard for him last year in the Vuelta. He probably has not timed his form perfectly for this race.
Maybe they get stressed out by the manouvering in the peloton. American roads are mainly big and wide.Lequack said:A lot of American riders seem to perform much better in American races for some reason and have trouble in Europe. Not sure why though.
Squire said:Maybe they get stressed out by the manouvering in the peloton. American roads are mainly big and wide.Lequack said:A lot of American riders seem to perform much better in American races for some reason and have trouble in Europe. Not sure why though.
It could also just be that the level in American races is just that much lower overall. It's not like Kuss was facing Dumoulin and Quintana in Utah.
Lequack said:A lot of American riders seem to perform much better in American races for some reason and have trouble in Europe. Not sure why though.
There were literally two stages that he did "good". The rest of the Vuelta, he was nowhere to be seen.tobydawq said:Potomac said:By the time I tune into the Giro, Roglic is left all alone. So is Kuss working really hard everyday helping to control the race early and is spent by the end of a stage? Or is a GT proving too much and he is struggling the entire race?
Nope.
It was not too hard for him last year in the Vuelta. He probably has not timed his form perfectly for this race.
Maybe we should first figure out what exactly his weight is/was because there seem to be some different sources for that. Also, watts don't paint the full picture. If his watts were so impressive, surely he should have been lightyears ahead of Hermans. But back in reality, he only took two minutes on three mountain stages. While still good and impressive, hardly the earthshattering achievement it was made out to be by some.Lequack said:Squire said:Maybe they get stressed out by the manouvering in the peloton. American roads are mainly big and wide.Lequack said:A lot of American riders seem to perform much better in American races for some reason and have trouble in Europe. Not sure why though.
It could also just be that the level in American races is just that much lower overall. It's not like Kuss was facing Dumoulin and Quintana in Utah.
It's true but watts don't lie, and he was pretty doing pretty good on those.
Logic-is-your-friend said:There were literally two stages that he did "good". The rest of the Vuelta, he was nowhere to be seen.tobydawq said:Potomac said:By the time I tune into the Giro, Roglic is left all alone. So is Kuss working really hard everyday helping to control the race early and is spent by the end of a stage? Or is a GT proving too much and he is struggling the entire race?
Nope.
It was not too hard for him last year in the Vuelta. He probably has not timed his form perfectly for this race.
Maybe we should first figure out what exactly his weight is/was because there seem to be some different sources for that. Also, watts don't paint the full picture. If his watts were so impressive, surely he should have been lightyears ahead of Hermans. But back in reality, he only took two minutes on three mountain stages. While still good and impressive, hardly the earthshattering achievement it was made out to be by some.Lequack said:Squire said:Maybe they get stressed out by the manouvering in the peloton. American roads are mainly big and wide.Lequack said:A lot of American riders seem to perform much better in American races for some reason and have trouble in Europe. Not sure why though.
It could also just be that the level in American races is just that much lower overall. It's not like Kuss was facing Dumoulin and Quintana in Utah.
It's true but watts don't lie, and he was pretty doing pretty good on those.
Apart from Utah, one stage in Cali two years ago, and two stages in the Vuelta, this guy still has everything to prove imho. He's turning 25 this summer, he seems like a nice enough guy, but the hype was hardly warranted. But since Jumbo extended his contract, they still have plans for him. I'm just wondering if those plans are 3rd tier domestique (like now) or if they still have faith that he might grow into a more prominent role.
I wasn't talking about this Giro. Just, as a future contender in general.Koronin said:I don't think anyone was expecting him to be high in GC, just expecting him to be of help to Roglic.
Logic-is-your-friend said:I wasn't talking about this Giro. Just, as a future contender in general.Koronin said:I don't think anyone was expecting him to be high in GC, just expecting him to be of help to Roglic.
Logic-is-your-friend said:I wasn't talking about this Giro. Just, as a future contender in general.Koronin said:I don't think anyone was expecting him to be high in GC, just expecting him to be of help to Roglic.
Bolder said:Logic-is-your-friend said:I wasn't talking about this Giro. Just, as a future contender in general.Koronin said:I don't think anyone was expecting him to be high in GC, just expecting him to be of help to Roglic.
Unfortunately he's been of no help to Roglic. I did think he'd be able to help on the Mortirolo, ie, keeping his powder dry for that one big effort. I guess he'll get one more year on the WT but if the results don't come then he should probably head back to the US.
Not sure what it's going to take to build a strong lineup of US riders. I suspect you'd need to have a money-is-no-object sponsor and build a Sky/Ineos structure. But given the struggles Vaugters has had to keep a team going, don't think that's going to happen. US sponsors, rightly so, are still gun-shy after the USPS debacle.