Sergio Henao

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TheGame said:
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So in 2012, the Bogota lab wasn't accredited to take Bio Passport samples, not all the labs are, or have that facility.

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So Bogota only got its accreditation to handle ABP samples in 2013. Hence why no prior testing.

lol if you think that (out of) competition control data has to be controlled by a lab in the nation the date has been obtained
 
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hrotha said:
You know who is? Malori. You know which team he rides for?

malori the guy who got trashed in algarve itt by kwiatkowski? you know who is also flying? slagter? you know what team he rides for you? your logic is hilarious and pathetic all at the same time
 
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Ryo Hazuki said:
lol if you think that (out of) competition control data has to be controlled by a lab in the nation the date has been obtained

If you think that testers flew from Salt Lake City to the backroads of Colombia
 
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TheGame said:
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So in 2012, the Bogota lab wasn't accredited to take Bio Passport samples, not all the labs are, or have that facility.

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So Bogota only got its accreditation to handle ABP samples in 2013. Hence why no prior testing.

In short, no ABP samples have been collected by the Colombian Lab until this winter. Full stop.

This is good info, thanks. They obviously could have tested for ABP in Colombia in the past, but it would been more expensive to express-ship samples to Salt Lake City or Europe for analysis. So it would make sense that all the South Americans might have started to have more OOC at-home ABP testing in 2013 just because of reduced cost.
 
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del1962 said:
What is the relevence of 14th Feb, that is between Majorca races and Oman?
Huh? The relevance is that Henao says the test Sky are looking at was done on February 14th. What are you on about?
 
Oct 16, 2012
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hrotha said:
Huh? The relevance is that Henao says the test Sky are looking at was done on February 14th. What are you on about?

Was that the date of the original test or the date that Sky got the results, or the date of a supplementary test that Sky did on Henao?

I thought the original test was when he went back to Colombia after WC, Feb 14th makes no sense.

I don't speak spanish.
 
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He only speaks of one test, and from the context it's clear he's referring to the original one. If the timeline doesn't make sense, maybe Fran could give him a call.
 
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I'm still a little staggered that Fran thought the original team statement was "clear".
 
May 26, 2010
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Henao has not gone back to Colombia yet and it might be that there is no lab in Colombia to do the APB test!
 
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hrotha said:
He only speaks of one test, and from the context it's clear he's referring to the original one. If the timeline doesn't make sense, maybe Fran could give him a call.

I'm reading the google translate version. Would you mind posting the relevant quote / section translated properly?

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What control was?

Control was watching the Sky which was made on February 14. The people of the AMA calls. At the time I had stipulated in Adams was 6 am to 7. They call me and tell me they could not come at 7, which was lost, if I could wait and I waited until 9am and perfect.
 
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Wallenquist said:

Henao states it was an official and surprise anti-doping test. Yet, the UCI's message defined the test as "internal controls."

Judging by Henao's response, the delay seems like Sky and the UCI were getting their stories straight. But, this does not quite fit with Henao's rep being first to press. Based on JTL though, it was the right thing to do.

Henao plainly states the issue is with blood values and blames it on the computer. It could be something about the test done wrong too. In this sense a retest would be helpful.

That's my broken Spanish with some help from Google Translate.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Henao states it was an official and surprise anti-doping test. Yet, the UCI's message defined the test as "internal controls."

Judging by Henao's response, the delay seems like Sky and the UCI were getting their stories straight. But, this does not quite fit with Henao's rep being first to press. Based on JTL though, it was the right thing to do.

Henao plainly states the issue is with blood values and blames it on the computer. It could be something about the test done wrong too. In this sense a retest would be helpful.

That's my broken Spanish with some help from Google Translate.
yes, so we at least we have it confirmed that its a blood issue.
other than that the issue remains utterly vague.
henao doesn't really seem to know either.
Son controles normales que hace la Unión Ciclista Internacional (UCI) regularmente. Me han hecho, en lo que llevo en el Sky, cerca de 60 controles y no he tenido ningún problema. Es algo interno del equipo.
so its uci testing. no wait, its internal team testing. right.

No tengo nada que ocultar y estoy tranquilo.
cool story bro!
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Henao states it was an official and surprise anti-doping test. Yet, the UCI's message defined the test as "internal controls."

Judging by Henao's response, the delay seems like Sky and the UCI were getting their stories straight. But, this does not quite fit with Henao's rep being first to press. Based on JTL though, it was the right thing to do.

Henao plainly states the issue is with blood values and blames it on the computer. It could be something about the test done wrong too. In this sense a retest would be helpful.

That's my broken Spanish with some help from Google Translate.

Straight out of JV's cycling press kit. When blood values are anomalous blame the machine:rolleyes:
 
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Benotti69 said:
Straight out of JV's cycling press kit. When blood values are anomalous blame the machine:rolleyes:

Well, lets be fair. There are ample opportunities for *something* to go wrong.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Well, lets be fair. There are ample opportunities for *something* to go wrong.

Then why bother doing the tests if you're just going to blame the machine if you don't get the results you want :D
 
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so its uci testing. no wait, its internal team testing. right.
He says it was a UCI test, but that the whole thing is an internal affair - i.e. the UCI officially has no beef with his values.
Henao plainly states the issue is with blood values and blames it on the computer.
He doesn't. He says he had entered 6-7 am as his window of availability for testing using ADAMS, but that the testers called him to say they had got lost and couldn't make it until 9 am, asking whether he was cool with that. He said he was and waited for them.

For Dear Wiggo
Q: Which test was it?
A: The test Sky is looking at was done on February 14th. I got a call from the WADA guys. The schedule I had entered on ADAMS was from 6 to 7 am. They called me to say they couldn't make it by 7 am, they had got lost, they asked me if I could wait and I waited until 9 am, no problem.
 
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hrotha said:
He doesn't. He says he had entered 6-7 am as his window of availability for testing using ADAMS, but that the testers called him to say they had got lost and couldn't make it until 9 am, asking whether he was cool with that. He said he was and waited for them.

My post wasn't clear then. That is as I read it. My point was that the type of test and the nature of the test was clearly communicated. But, maybe I missed something earlier.
 
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Q: Which test was it?
A: The test Sky is looking at was done on February 14th. I got a call from the WADA guys. The schedule I had entered on ADAMS was from 6 to 7 am. They called me to say they couldn't make it by 7 am, they had got lost, they asked me if I could wait and I waited until 9 am, no problem.

Not sure henao is talking about the WADA test as being 14th Feb here? I understood that the anomaly arose from 2 tests - one official ABP test in Colombia last winter and a second later internal Sky test (which I think henao is saying happened on 14th Feb). we don't know if they had the ooc results at the time of the internal test or not. the party line seems to be that they got the colombia results afterwards and when they compared the earlier internal test result the anomaly arose. UCI/WADA didn't have an issue with values in the first test and the second test has nothing to do with them.
 
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Thank you, hrotha.

So a test done on Feb 14th had weird values, 3 days after Trofeo Serra de Tramuntana in Spain?

Did Henao do a training camp with Sky before racing started? Or is that a marginal gain they haven't shared with all their riders?

And why was October mentioned in the first place, when it is mostly irrelevant to the test in question. :confused:
 
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bewildered said:
Not sure henao is talking about the WADA test as being 14th Feb here? I understood that the anomaly arose from 2 tests - one official ABP test in Colombia last winter and a second later internal Sky test (which I think henao is saying happened on 14th Feb). we don't know if they had the ooc results at the time of the internal test or not. the party line seems to be that they got the colombia results afterwards and when they compared the earlier internal test result the anomaly arose. UCI/WADA didn't have an issue with values in the first test and the second test has nothing to do with them.

Sky do not do internal tests. Where on earth are you getting this idea from? AMA is NOT Sky.

Great username, btw :D