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Weapons of @ss Destruction said:
Seriously? That's exactly what happened between Lemond and Hinault in 1985 and 1986. It's one of the most legendary stories in the history of cycling. Lemond, already arguably a stronger rider than Hinault in 1985, agreed to support his 5th TdF win in return for Hinault backing Lemond in 1986. Hinault totally went back on that promise and went tooth and nail with Lemond for the 1986 yellow.

Armstrong and Contador not quite the same since it all happened in relation to one single TdF, but Armstrong did follow through a progression over several months of "I'm coming back for Livestrong awareness, not to win" to "I'm probably not even going to ride the TdF" to "I'll ride the TdF but Contador is a great champion who will be our team leader" to "We'll decide it on the road" and finally to using his minions on the team to ditch Contador for significant time losses on an early stage during which the peloton split in crosswinds coming around a corner.

You're telling me that neither of these bears any resemblance to the current Froomiggins shenanigans?

Armstrong had no intention of playing 2nd fiddle to anyone from the outset. He gradually changed his story as it would've been stupid to declare his intent from the get go and give Contador time to either jump ship or plan for being the battle that was going to ensue that July.
 

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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
You missed:
he is of the silly rings, he is on O rings now [marginal gain - 1]

Advantage Contador/Pinot.

It's going to be a *** fest.

The Dawg is now going to amp the gear like real bad now.

The Dawg will go hyper-full-***.

Wiggins will get in the Dawgs head. Already has.

Downward Dawg from here on end.
 
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Benotti69 said:
Armstrong had no intention of playing 2nd fiddle to anyone from the outset. He gradually changed his story as it would've been stupid to declare his intent from the get go and give Contador time to either jump ship or plan for being the battle that was going to ensue that July.

Of course Armstrong had no intention of supporting Contador. That's why Contador insisted on having a number of his own hand-picked riders on the TdF squad way in advance, so that he knew he would have some support when the rest of the team under the direction of Armstrong and Bruyneel turned against him.
 
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enCYCLOpedia said:
That's something that stood out from the interview for me as well (and the fact that he kept referring to "Lance" quite a bit).
Next, Chris Froome will be telling us he's improved his recovery time after he stopped doing "that silly warm down routine".

It's not about the bike, remember?
Good to see I wasnt the only one who caught up on that.

Oval rings seem silly.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news...ip-after-wiggins-announces-giro-tour-aim.html

Looks like the Bradster has a lucrative deal on hand for next year. The little boy form Kilburn has grown up.
Froome19 said:
Unfortunately Wigan are going down..:(
Agree on that, at least you got rugby.
 
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Tyler'sTwin said:
That is of course false. More Hb means higher VO2 max which means more watts at any given % of VO2 max which means improvement. You are essentially suggesting that a blood bag before an important race does not improve performance.

I said nothing about blood bags. We're talking PEDs, specifically EPO. Please read my post again.

Further to that - Tyler wrote he felt stuffed, and had to push through that to get the actual benefit of the blood bag.

If a couch potato sits on the couch and mainlines EPO, they are not going to beat me in a bike race / effort.

The other point is: VO2max changes from pre-season to mid-season, correct? I mean I had a slack year last year and my power has creeped up for the past 3 months from training alone. Training makes you fitter / stronger.

You can't take EPO and just pootle around and win a GT - which is what Kerrison seems to be claiming. Especially when everyone else was on the same stuff, all trying to win the same races.
 
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Weapons of @ss Destruction said:
Seriously? That's exactly what happened between Lemond and Hinault in 1985 and 1986. It's one of the most legendary stories in the history of cycling. Lemond, already arguably a stronger rider than Hinault in 1985, agreed to support his 5th TdF win in return for Hinault backing Lemond in 1986. Hinault totally went back on that promise and went tooth and nail with Lemond for the 1986 yellow.

Armstrong and Contador not quite the same since it all happened in relation to one single TdF, but Armstrong did follow through a progression over several months of "I'm coming back for Livestrong awareness, not to win" to "I'm probably not even going to ride the TdF" to "I'll ride the TdF but Contador is a great champion who will be our team leader" to "We'll decide it on the road" and finally to using his minions on the team to ditch Contador for significant time losses on an early stage during which the peloton split in crosswinds coming around a corner.

You're telling me that neither of these bears any resemblance to the current Froomiggins shenanigans?

Neither of those 2 stories is anything like what i am talking about. Maybe you should read my post again. I am not talking about 2 riders on the same team challenging eachother in a tour, i am talking about 1 rider over 2 tours, having flip flopping his position 180 degrees from when he gets to play leader to when he has to play domestique.
 
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thehog said:
Did Michelle write that for him?

More like 2012 Wiggins.
Attempting to win the Tour de France is a massive undertaking, and will take total commitment from each and every team member."

"The Tour team has yet to be selected but with the depth of talent that we have at Team Sky, I have no doubt that the strongest and most willing riders will be there to support me."
 
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The Hitch said:
i am talking about 1 rider over 2 tours, having flip flopping his position 180 degrees from when he gets to play leader to when he has to play domestique.

OK, so you`re making a distinction between the rider who actually does play domestique after being the leader, versus one who is supposed to be the domestique but won`t go along with it. I guess all I can say is that we'll have to wait until the 2013 edition is finished to learn which is more representative of Sky's Tour.
 
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Weapons of @ss Destruction said:
Why am I finding this sentence to be particularly humorous, given the clinic's propensity for referring to Sir Bradley as "Wigans"? Is he baiting us? ;)

Wiggins made the statement at a press conference in Wigan

The 'roid rage is starting to run strong in these two clowns.

Froome and Wigans are going to be jacking an extra 10% just to put one over on the other. On mountain stages we may need to warn U.S. missile detection radar sites so some crazy American general doesn't think WW 3 has started.
 
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BroDeal said:
Froome and Wigans are going to be jacking an extra 10% just to put one over on the other. On mountain stages we may need to warn U.S. missile detection radar sites so some crazy American general doesn't think WW 3 has started.

Brad may mean what he says, but in reality, after a brutal Giro, which it will be, he will be in no state to start as a favourite in TDF. If he is, and if he does, I'm out of here.
 
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People in the UK literally have no idea who Froome is. On the news yesterday half the stations didn't even mention him, it was Sir Brad is going for the double, cool.

Sky, the corporation, can't sell the Tour on Froome, and Sky, the team, is changing the narrative.

I now expect Froome to get popped. And if Ben Johnson tells us anything, expect a lot of "Disgraced Kenyan" headlines.
 
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Weapons of @ss Destruction said:
Why am I finding this sentence to be particularly humorous, given the clinic's propensity for referring to Sir Bradley as "Wigans"? Is he baiting us? ;)

Wiggins made the statement at a press conference in Wigan

The 'roid rage is starting to run strong in these two clowns.
if this is irony and a nod and a wink, i take my hat off to wiggins. he always attempts to do british humour and monty python, but when it is forced, it comes off like his stupid haircuts and muttonchops.

chapeau if it was a doff to the Clinic 12, and us bone idle w@nkers. ;)

good one. now he just has to drop the excoriation and polemic on those who have fallen foul with testing, like at cofidis, or vino. cos Brad, you never started 4 years ago. this started before Linda McCartney for you, about the same time for Hoy.

so a little respect in both directions would be due, dont heap it on guys like Ricco, when they were unlucky, or un-politik.
 
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just googled where Wigan is. 20km satellite conurbation of Manchester.

no reason why he would do a presser there. except, him taking the ****.

this is very good. i am impressed
 
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blackcat said:
just googled where Wigan is. 20km satellite conurbation of Manchester.

no reason why he would do a presser there. except, him taking the ****.

this is very good. i am impressed

Also the spirtual home of Northern Soul. Brad being a Mod and all.