Sky/Froome Talk Only (No Way Sky Are Cleans?)

[blackcat]

But will anybody be watching?

i have lost interest.

my renewed curiosity is the back and forth of the clinic. i find it quite fun.

 

[BYOP88]

But will anybody be watching?

Mrs Wiggins, cheering on anyone but Froome. She'll probably have a word with Brailsford and make Brad ride it.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Bilharzia is a odd diesese but basically follows the ProTour calendar. It generally comes before the Tour during pre-season and goes away a few weeks before July.

Whenever passport samples are to be collected it comes back.

Works on a 8-12 week cycle.

Look here, 2013 is the cleanest peloton ever.

If the goal is to grow cycling viewers in South Africa, then I'd say Froome is just the guy to do it. There's only a 1 hour time difference between Johannesburg and Paris! It's only a matter of never processing those suspicious/positive test results. The UCI is very good at that.

 

[Pandora]

He had a treatment recently. Again. Note that the date is mid January 2013, less than a month before Tour of Oman:

Both riders are currently in Majorca at Team Sky's warm-weather training camp in Port d'Alcudia. Froome flew in earlier this week and revealed he recently underwent treatment for bilharzia. The tropical disease is caused by parasitic worms and has affected him before in recent years.

"In terms of that illness, I actually went for a check 10 days ago and found out that I did have to repeat the treatment again," he said. "It means these big pills that basically poison you and kill everything in your stomach and I took that in the last week. I am feeling much better now and hopefully I am in the clear for another six months or so.

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/25/chris-froome-team-sky-tour-de-france

 

[D-Queued]

He had a treatment recently. Again. Note that the date is mid January 2013, less than a month before Tour of Oman:



Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2013/jan/25/chris-froome-team-sky-tour-de-france

I want a TUE for Bilharzia.

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

I want a TUE for Bilharzia.

Dave.

Time for someone in the cycling media to get stuck into Froome's Bilharzia and blow this out of the water.

 

[BYOP88]

I want a TUE for Bilharzia.

Dave.

Me too.

What a poor guy he is, get's it all sorted in time for last years Tour and then forgets about dodgy water in Africa, goes for a vacation back home in Africa and goes swimming. Hope he doesn't go back to Africa before the Tour.

 

[Clausfarre]

I think the evolution of statements from Sky riders will go from "teams who work with suspicious doctors should be thrown out" to "we have never tested positive so f off" very soon. The suspicious nature of it all will lead to uncomfortable questions being asked.

 

[thehog]

I think the evolution of statements from Sky riders will go from "teams who work with suspicious doctors should be thrown out" to "we have never tested positive so f off" very soon. The suspicious nature of it all will lead to uncomfortable questions being asked.

I smell a foundation... 10% of all winnings goes to charity.

 

[Clausfarre]

I smell a foundation... 10% of all winnings goes to charity.

Great. They could collect for the blind and have a fitting slogan like "Nothing to see here"

 

[blackcat]

I think the evolution of statements from Sky riders will go from "teams who work with suspicious doctors should be thrown out" to "we have never tested positive so f off" very soon. The suspicious nature of it all will lead to uncomfortable questions being asked.

but folks are, in the words of ms andreau, people are stupid. if they think gilbert and wiggins, riders who have built a store of credibility on a few phrases of anti-doping rhetoric, if they believe they just started doping in their winning seasons, you are beyond help. even when he was kicked out of the tdf with cofidis and he raged against a rider on his team, plus vino, he still was on his "just a bit" doping, maintenance program.

gilbert and wiggins did not just start doping when they became winners. they were doping all along, just now they have a well of ADZ (anti-doping zealotry) that needs to be drained.

 

[thehog]

RadioShack v Froome.

Watch from 49secs in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=if45QUTDang&sns=em

I like the comment on the "big gear".

You're in trouble if Kloden is taking the p1ss out of your doping.

And 1.58.

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

I like the comment on the "big gear".

More this one hog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=if45QUTDang#t=70s

Nono, they spoke to us!

Looks like SKY are well liked in the peloton.

 

[del1962]

Sky training hard, Radioshack Leopard Trek larking about, says it all

 

[Taxus4a]

An unpolished diamond

They ask me to put this here


An unpolished diamond: la historia de Chris Froome

I have no problem to answer questions, always my english allowed me, but those people who talk thinking they have the true and things have only a possibility, are not in my interest. With arguments, no problem.

 

[Ripper]

but folks are, in the words of ms andreau, people are stupid. if they think gilbert and wiggins, riders who have built a store of credibility on a few phrases of anti-doping rhetoric, if they believe they just started doping in their winning seasons, you are beyond help. even when he was kicked out of the tdf with cofidis and he raged against a rider on his team, plus vino, he still was on his "just a bit" doping, maintenance program.

gilbert and wiggins did not just start doping when they became winners. they were doping all along, just now they have a well of ADZ (anti-doping zealotry) that needs to be drained.

No BC, no one dopes until they become a winner. I mean Jeez, you know this, riiight?

 

[cineteq]

They ask me to put this here


An unpolished diamond: la historia de Chris Froome

I have no problem to answer questions, always my english allowed me, but those people who talk thinking they have the true and things have only a possibility, are not in my interest. With arguments, no problem.

You need to elaborate what's your take re: Froome being clean, most members do not read Spanish.

 

[Taxus4a]

You need to elaborate what's your take re: Froome being clean, most members do not read Spanish.

You can just read the english links, or switch the lenguage in the blog to english (above on the right side), and if there is a part to translate better just ask me.

 

[cineteq]

You can just read the english links, or switch the lenguage in the blog to english (above on the right side), and if there is a part to translate better just ask me.

It's not for me, I'm Spanish speaking. If you have a take and want to debate go and show it, don't post just links. Google translation is terrible, don't be lazy.

 

[gthx_gthx_]

It's not for me, I'm Spanish speaking. If you have a take and want to debate go and show it, don't post just links. Google translation is terrible, don't be lazy.

I agree i tried to google translate it (in French) and most of the sentences makes no sense at all. Pretty funny sometimes.

Though from what i could understand this article is basically saying that Froome and Wiggins performance are suspicious right ?

 

[armchairclimber]

It's not for me, I'm Spanish speaking. If you have a take and want to debate go and show it, don't post just links. Google translation is terrible, don't be lazy.

He wrote the frickin thing...and it's as long and detailed a blog post as you could wish to read. It's you that's lazy, not him.

I read the translated version...it took a while, and a bit of effort, but worth it: lots of stuff I didn't know.

 

[Ripper]

He wrote the frickin thing...and it's as long and detailed a blog post as you could wish to read. It's you that's lazy, not him.

I read the translated version...it took a while, and a bit of effort, but worth it: lots of stuff I didn't know.

Actually, you both have points. Some more info than a link really should be posted if you want to make it a forum conversation. But referencing his blog while summarizing his point would be appreciated.

 

[DirtyWorks]

He wrote the frickin thing...and it's as long and detailed a blog post as you could wish to read. It's you that's lazy, not him.

I read the translated version...it took a while, and a bit of effort, but worth it: lots of stuff I didn't know.

You have to wonder what the function of the trip to the UCI's performance center is for the UCI. THat's not really specific to Froome, but more about the UCI feeding teams riders where they want to grow viewers.

According to the narrative, he has history of alien performances. If he's clean, he's cursed because that's the profile of a decade of oxygen vector dopers. The disease treatment, or non-treatment is super-sketchy. That could be the Google translator though.

All said, more information is always better. Thanks to the OP for the effort and link.

 

[Taxus4a]

You have to wonder what the function of the trip to the UCI's performance center is for the UCI. THat's not really specific to Froome, but more about the UCI feeding teams riders where they want to grow viewers.

According to the narrative, he has history of alien performances. If he's clean, he's cursed because that's the profile of a decade of oxygen vector dopers. The disease treatment, or non-treatment is super-sketchy. That could be the Google translator though.

All said, more information is always better. Thanks to the OP for the effort and link.

There are a lot of riders riding for the UCI team every year, for example Tour de l Avenir, about five every year. And that does not mean anything, they just try to give an oportunity, becouse is one of the UCI mission. If UCi has been corrupt or may change, that is another story...
If you want to think bad, you will always find reasons, of course, from SKY, from any other team, or any rider you chose.
if someone near the cycling world say: things have change a lot, you could say: I dont believe, you are part of that world, you have interest to say that, and if it said for people out of cycling world, you could say: and why you know?
So that way you find always reasons...
So it is stupid I told you that I know things have change, so I dont say that...but dont try I believe didnt change, becouse I dont have any reasons to believe you, man.

 

[DirtyWorks]

If you want to think bad, you will always find reasons, of course, from SKY, from any other team, or any rider you chose.

You can't just discard criticism as thinking bad. Mindless enthusiasm for cycling has been rewarded with doping scandal after doping scandal after doping confession.

Pat and Hein have done nothing to believe that the sport is cleaner.