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Some diehard Armstrong fans now turning their back on him and Livestrong

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TheEnoculator said:
Armstrong ain't no ordinary doper. He also coerced others to dope, trafficked drugs, threatened others about coming forward, bullied his teammates into doping or they'd be kicked off the team, getting his ex-wife involved in storing and preparing the drugs. He even administered the drugs to one of his teammates.

The guy is a drug dealer, and the ringleader of a huge doping program. He turned cycling into drug cartel, literally.

At least the other dopers just doped and lied and denied. Armstrong is way worse than all of them combined, so he deserves way worse than what happened to others. That's why he got a life-time ban.

So no, I don't think I'm overboard.
So you think USPS riders wouldn't have doped if not for Armstrong's bullying? So Bruyneel had no role (or Riis, or Saiz, etc)? And was Armstrong responsible for the team doping at Festina, Kelme, Telekom, ONCE, etc?

Don't misunderstand, I think Armstrong is getting all that he deserves, but he didn't single-handedly destroy cycling nor was doping in cycling a result of Armstrong. It would've happened with or without him. Some - like Armstrong - were worse than others, definitely, but all are complicit.
 
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orbeas said:
Has anyone seen any comments from his greatest fans ??

eddy merckx

axel merckx

Phil Liggert

Paul Sherwin

all very quiet

Sherwen said he's just read Tylers book and was onto the USADA report next, some bedtime fairy stories to tell Phil at their next charity race :rolleyes:
 
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thehog said:
This is brilliant.

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"Choose to make it obvious by winning 7 times".

I have always thought that had he been happy to win the Tour 2 or 3, or even 4 times, he would have sailed under the radar. His own arrogance and determination to set himself up as the 'greatest ever Tour winner' meant his downfall was inevitable.
 
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delleErbe said:
Searching for "@lancearmstrong" produces some entertaining tweets.

I liked this one:

Too bad I don't use ****ter and Faceborg. I'm pretty sure reading all those digruntled fanboy's whinings would keep me entertained for ages :D
 
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orbeas said:
Has anyone seen any comments from his greatest fans ??

eddy merckx
axel merckx
Phil Liggert
Paul Sherwin

all very quiet

Of course they are. He lied to them too. It's a full-handed slap in the face on a 20 year friendship. Friends believe in friends. That's the way it works until something like this happens. I'd love to hear the next conversation Sherwin has with Lance.
 
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pkreed71 said:
Of course they are. He lied to them too. It's a full-handed slap in the face on a 20 year friendship. Friends believe in friends. That's the way it works until something like this happens. I'd love to hear the next conversation Sherwin has with Lance.

I would never suggest that Sherwin or any of his other synchophants were that ignorant. They were equal profiteers.
On a more positive development, reading the comments to a CNN article suggesting Armstrong's legacy may survive the fallout many people characterized themselves as former fans and took on the other loggers still clinging to the usual justifications.
On the down side the standard characterization of pro riders is: they all doped.
 
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Lance is deploying full cancer shields in his latest twitter post.

He's diverting all backup power to them like Captain Picard. How long will they hold under the collective assault of Twitter (Klingons), Facebook (Vogons, just because), the Cycling / Associated Press (Romulans) and cycling fans/USADA (the Borg)?
 
Big Daddy said:
It's a PR war. Armstrong is busted. He's toast. He can only pander to people's sympathies by touting that Livestrong crap.

He's in Livestrong bunker fighting for dear life. The interns are churning out new marketing material. None of the interior ministry dare tell him what's going on in the real world.

He'll have to face the public one day.

Maybe standing next to Jens will make him look good? :rolleyes:
 
Bosco10 said:
And then there's Rick Reilly. I swear he wears yellow lance panties to bed.

I couldn't agree more, I wrote to Rick Reilly multiple times going back to time he was at SI about Lance Armstrong, how wrong he was, I even mailed him a copy of David Walsh's book "From Lance to Landis". Never got a response from him, I cancelled my SI subscription shortly after that.

Earlier this year he admitted that he was wrong about Joe Patterno, I'll be waiting anxiously about his column about How wrong he was about LA. I don't think it'll happen.
 
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pkreed71 said:
Of course they are. He lied to them too. It's a full-handed slap in the face on a 20 year friendship. Friends believe in friends. That's the way it works until something like this happens. I'd love to hear the next conversation Sherwin has with Lance.

I do agree that friends often see the best in their friends (if they are good friends) but in the case of Liggett especially he had to be working some kind of agenda, I don't believe he genuinely thought Lance was clean.
 
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OMG, he is even slapped on his own twitter and facebook. I am impressed. The downfall happens faster and harder than ever imagined. Ouch...
If it goes on like this i´ll might say the unthinkable: I feel a little bit sorry for you.
 
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FoxxyBrown1111 said:
OMG, he is even slapped on his own twitter and facebook. I am impressed. The downfall happens faster and harder than ever imagined. Ouch...
If it goes on like this i´ll might say the unthinkable: I feel a little bit sorry for you.



I'm never gonna feel sorry for Armstrong. He's made millions of dollars cheating others. He's abused his position in cycling and has wielded his influence to hurt people's business and job prospects. He's harassed and threatened people. I'm never gonna feel sorry for him.

Even after it is all said and done, he's never, ever gonna have to lift his finger for any manual work for the rest of his life. He's got multiple mansions and properties in the US, Europe, etc. All the fancy cars and private jets to whisk him to any vacation at any time he wants. Tell me... Who wouldn't want to take some abuse on Facebook for all of that?