South American race thread

[Ryo Hazuki]

finally excellent jaramillo. who is going to greenedge

 

[Eric8-A]

Vuelta de la Juventud Stage 4: Riosucio-Pereira 114 Kms

Stage Results

1. Jhonatan Restrepo Supérate–Intercolegiados 2:47:36
2. Rodrigo Contreras Coldeportes–Claro
3. Jorge H. Noreña Supérate–Intercolegiados
4. Cristián Martínez Gob. Caldas-Alc. Manizales-Coltejer
5. José de J. Jaimes Liciclismo Santander :09
6. Jhonathan Ospina Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA
7. Sebastián Henao Coldeportes–Claro
8. César Villegas Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA
9. Daniel Jaramillo Coldeportes–Claro
10. Camilo Tique Ag. Blanco- Supergiros–Redetrans

GC After Stage 4

1. César Villegas Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA 12:06:01
2. Daniel Jaramillo Coldeportes–Claro :14
3. Sebastián Henao Coldeportes–Claro :59
4. Luis Miguel Martínez Gob. Caldas-Alc. Manizales-Coltejer 1:46
5. Hernán Darío Parra Ag. Blanco-Supergiros–Redetrans 2:18
6. Christian Peña Supérate–Intercolegiados 2:22
7. Salvador Moreno Coldeportes–Claro 2:30
8. Hernando Bohórquez Muebles Elegant House-Villa Alegría 2:32
9. Cristián Vargas Lotería Boyacá Se Atreve 2:34
10. Daniel Andrés Rozo Elegant House-Villa Alegría 3:39

 

[Eric8-A]

Vuelta de La Juventud Stage 5: Pereira 12.5 Kms

Stage Results

1. César Villegas Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA 22:15
2. Salvador Moreno Coldeportes–Claro :15
3. Jáder Betancur Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA :24
4. Brayan Sánchez Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA :38
5. Jhonathan Ospina Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA 1:00
6. Brayan Ramírez MultiRespuestos Bosa-Super Ronny 1:01
7. Rodrigo Contreras Coldeportes–Claro 1:04
8. Daniel Jaramillo Coldeportes–Claro
9. Sebastián Henao Coldeportes–Claro 1:05
10. Luis Miguel Martínez Gob. Caldas-Alc. Manizales-Coltejer 1:06

GC After Stage 5

1. César Villegas Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA 12:06:01
2. Daniel Jaramillo Coldeportes–Claro 1:19
3. Sebastián Henao Coldeportes–Claro 2:04
4. Salvador Moreno Coldeportes–Claro 2:45
5. Luis Miguel Martínez Gob. Caldas-Alc. Manizales-Coltejer 2:52
6. Christian Peña Supérate–Intercolegiados 3:32
7. Hernán Darío Parra Ag. Blanco- Supergiros–Redetrans 4:46
8. Cristián Vargas Lotería Boyacá Se Atreve 4:47
9. Brayan Ramírez MultiRespuestos Bosa-Super Ronny 5:09
10. Camilo Forero Ag. Antioqueño-Lot. Medellín-IDEA 5:30

 

[Eric8-A]

So I've been out for a while mainly due to trouble logging into here.

OK, transfer news, I just saw that Sebastian Henao has been confirmed for Sky next year as I'm sure we all knew already.

Juan Pablo Suarez of Team Colombia will be returning to EPM-UNE next year.

At the Vuelta a Ecuador, Movistar is going pretty strong with several stage wins, and Freddy Montaña leads the race.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Vuelta a Bolivia (01.-10.11.)

Small, but great line-up.

 

[Eric8-A]

Oscar Soliz will have to come strong to fight off the Colombians here.

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Vuelta a Bolivia

stage 1 won by Alfredo Lucero (San Luis), 2nd is Rodrigo Contreras (Coldeportes).

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Vuelta a Bolivia

Stage 3, 50km TTT (lol) result:

1. San Luis Somos Todos 1:12:05 41.618
DIAZ Daniel GIACINTI Jorge GODOY Sergio Daniel JUAREZ Gabriel LUCERO Alfredo MESSINEO Leandro Carlos

2. Colombia - Coldeportes 2:32 40.205
CONTRERAS Rodrigo GARCIA Juan-carlos GOMEZ Camilo Andres GOMEZ Javier Eduardo MARTINEZ John Edibberto MORENO Salvador

3. Prodem-Loteria del Tachira 4:05 39.387
ROMAN Maky GONZALES Ronald Javier GARCIA Artur Albeiro RUIZ Juan Carlos SALINAS Yonathan Jesus VARGAS Freddy

4. Pio Rico 6:55 37.975
JUCHANI Wilbert NAVARRO Royner RAMOS Basilio ROJAS David SOLIZ Leandro SOLIZ Oscar

Alfredo Lucero leads GC.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

like every year. the bolivians get destroyed by colombians and especially argentineans and chileans in the flat stages that come first.

 

[Le breton]

Vila Vila to El Alto

It looks like stage 8 from Vila-Vila to El Alto goes through Unduavi and presumably uses Road 41 between La Cumbre pass (at 4653 meters according to the road marker) and El Alto.

I am curious about that road which I discovered recently just looking at google map.

I don't have a profile but it seems to hover for a long distance around 4500-4700 meters with ups and downs.

Anybody here has cycled on that road? Was it used on previous years?

 

[Lupetto]

like every year. the bolivians get destroyed by colombians and especially argentineans and chileans in the flat stages that come first.

El Volcán is 12:29 down. Last year he won three of the high altitude stages, but could be too much already.

 

[slosada]

Until today all stages were run flat and low lands (200-500m over sea level). Today is the first stage with intermediate altitude because they get to Cochabamba area.
If I am to believe the elevation in the road book, todays stage is mostly downhill, but with a murito 10Km from the finish. 600m at 16.7%

I'm not sure how Argentinians, who are in command will face the altitude. Colombians should be fine at this point

 

[slosada]

It looks like stage 8 from Vila-Vila to El Alto goes through Unduavi and presumably uses Road 41 between La Cumbre pass (at 4653 meters according to the road marker) and El Alto.

I am curious about that road which I discovered recently just looking at google map.

I don't have a profile but it seems to hover for a long distance around 4500-4700 meters with ups and downs.

Anybody here has cycled on that road? Was it used on previous years?

Based on the official webpage, the highest point is called La Cumbre, at 4496. It will be climbed tomorrow (stage6 Bombeo-Oruro) at Km 60. It's route 4, search for Lakolakoni.
It doesn't seem steep but at that high altitude anything feels like Mortirolo.

Stage 7 finishes in El Alto and it looks flat. (3774 to 4111m at the finish line)

 

[Le breton]

Based on the official webpage, the highest point is called La Cumbre, at 4496. It will be climbed tomorrow (stage6 Bombeo-Oruro) at Km 60. It's route 4, search for Lakolakoni.
It doesn't seem steep but at that high altitude anything feels like Mortirolo.

Stage 7 finishes in El Alto and it looks flat. (3774 to 4111m at the finish line)

Thanks,
About 4500 m seems right for the highest point on that road.

However on stage 8 there is no way you can go from Vila vila (via Unduavi) to El Alto without going through another pass also named "La Cumbre" which culminates at 4653 meters ( I have a poster of that road in front of my eyes, pix I took in 2001).

I guess the map shown on this thread must be wrong and the race does not go through Unduavi, but stays on the altiplano on the main road from Oruro to La Paz.

 

[Eric8-A]

Vuelta al Mundo Maya Stage 1: 115 Kms

Stage Results

1. Eduard Beltran EPM-UNE 2:36:10
2. Edwin Carvajal EPM-UNE :03
3. Elias Vega JPS-Giant :08
4. Jaime Casteñada EPM-UNE :51
5. Alfredo Ajpacaja Cable DX-Decorabaños 2:15
6. Manuel Rodas Cable DX-Decorabaños 2:35
7. Dorian Monterroso Cable DX-Decorabaños 2:45
8. Walter Pedraza EPM-UNE 3:34
9. Camilo Castiblanco EPM-UNE
10. Stiver Ortiz EPM-UNE

The report said that 51 riders took part in today's stage. That's odd. Looks like it'll be total EPM domination.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

la cumbre is a famous climb in boliviain cycling. they do it every year. but I don't know it's altitude. I think it's 4400 metres

 

[Arredondo]

Beltran got the motivations for sure now he knows he will be racing in Europe next year. I'm curious what he can do next season.

 

[Le breton]

La Cumbre

la cumbre is a famous climb in boliviain cycling. they do it every year. but I don't know it's altitude. I think it's 4400 metres

The better known "La Cumbre" is the one outside of La Paz going to Yungas (Unduavi, Coroico, Chulumani, Caranavi). The top is at 4653 meters.
Since La Cumbre means The TOP, there are bound to be many La Cumbre in Latin America.

The one "La Cumbre" that you mention is on the road from Cochabamba ( about 2700m) to Oruro (3900 meters more or less). That road was largely unpaved before Evo Morales came to power.

 

[slosada]

Le Breton:
As per the official website the image posted in this thread is wrong. They use a different road mostly flat.

As per Google imagery on 2013, Road 41 seems to be unpaved and it flirts with 4800m over sea level, but I see route 3, near Laguna Estrellani, reaching the altitude you stated before.

Coming back to the race results: Yesterday's stage was won by Rodrigo Contreras (COL) and reduced his difference by 40 secs. The leader seemed to be the only Argentinian to hang in the bunch, so he kept/increased distances to other rivals.

1- 42 ARG19740621 GIACINTI, Jorge SLS 23:45:52 a 00:00:00
2- 41 ARG19890707 DIAZ, Daniel SLS 23:49:12 a 00:03:20
3 -45 ARG19790208 LUCERO, Alfredo SLS 23:49:29 a 00:03:37
4 -22 COL19830720 GARCIA, Juan Alejandro COL 23:50:10 a 00:04:18
5 -26 COL19910418 MORENO, Salvador COL 23:50:40 a 00:04:48
6 -21 COL19940602 CONTRERAS, Rodrigo COL 23:52:01 a 00:06:09
7 -5 VEN19900531 SALINAS, Jhonathan Jesus LOT 23:52:15 a 00:06:23
8 -6 VEN19821027 VARGAS, Freddy LOT 23:53:02 a 00:07:10
9 -25 COL19830513 MARTINEZ, Jhon Edilberto COL 23:53:58 a 00:08:06
10- 23 COL19841005 GÒMEZ, Camilo Andres COL 23:53:58 a 00:08:06

 

[Lupetto]

Stage 7

1 Óscar "Volcán" Soliz
2 Juan "Cóndor" Cotumba
3 Basilio Ramos

Salvador Moreno is the new leader of the race. Volcán is still eight minutes down. So it looks quite good for Moreno, but you never know.

 

[Eric8-A]

Vuelta al Mundo Maya Stage 2: ITT 10 Kms

Stage Results

1. Eduard Beltran EPM-UNE 13:05
2. Camilo Castiblanco EPM-UNE :16
3. Stiver Ortiz EPM-UNE :20
4. Edwin Carvajal EPM-UNE :29
5. Manuel Rodas Cable DX-Decorabaños :36
6. Jamie Casteñada EPM-UNE :38
7. Juan Rojas JPS-Giant
8. Elias Vega JPS-Giant :43
9. Brayan Rios Seleccion de Guatemala Sub 23 :50
10. Joseph Chavarria JPS-Giant :57

GC After Stage 2

1. Eduard Beltran EPM-UNE 5:37:27
2. Edwin Carvajal EPM-UNE :32
3. Jamie Casteñada EPM-UNE :41
4. Elias Vega JPS-Giant :51
5. Alfredo Ajpacaja Cable DX-Decorabaños 3:43
6. Camilo Castiblanco EPM-UNE 3:50
7. Stiver Ortiz EPM-UNE 3:54
8. Juan Rojas JPS-Giant 4:17
9. Joseph Chavarria JPS-Giant 4:34
10. Walter Pedraza EPM-UNE 4:56

The field looks to have been reduced to 46 riders now.

 

[Michele]

This is the Beltrain going to ride for Ceramiche Flaminia next year, right?
I hope he doesnt ride too many races this winter cause next year he may be one of their main riders according to their 2014 roster.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Stage 7

1 Óscar "Volcán" Soliz
2 Juan "Cóndor" Cotumba
3 Basilio Ramos

Salvador Moreno is the new leader of the race. Volcán is still eight minutes down. So it looks quite good for Moreno, but you never know.

I wouldn't be so sure. soliz has had far worse odds in past vuelta's in which he came back more than 20 minutes in a few stages(2009). also the itt alone will make soliz take at least 5-6 minutes on moreno and everbody else. soliz high altitude timetrialing is something beyond anything. indurain and martin could dream of gaps like these:

1 25 BOL19850109 SOLIZ, Oscar EBS á 00:55:38
2 45 VEN19881027 GALVIZ, Carlos LTA á 00:03:41.94
3 2 COL19771217 CAMARGO, Luis Fernando BOY á 00:04:25.88
4 1 COL19730118 LADINO, Gregorio BOY á 00:04:34.54
5 61 ECU19850614 GUAMA, Byron PIC á 00:04:37.75
6 6 COL19810309 NEYSA, Mauricio BOY á 00:04:49.33
7 23 COL19861108 PEREZ, Wilmar EBS á 00:05:20.26
8 5 COL19740904 FONCESA, Graciano BOY á 00:05:37.24
9 62 ECU19790330 GALLEGOS, Jorge PIC á 00:05:42.23
10 72 ECU19781110 CALPA, Ramiro GLA á 00:05:48.79

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

This is the Beltrain going to ride for Ceramiche Flaminia next year, right?
I hope he doesnt ride too many races this winter cause next year he may be one of their main riders according to their 2014 roster.

yes. raul mesa forced him to race mundo mayay because he is leaving the team he's an ***hole. I hope beltran rests well because he can really put european climbing under fire. see giro bio 2010. he has only improved since then as shows him winning an itt.

 

[Arredondo]

yes. raul mesa forced him to race mundo mayay because he is leaving the team he's an ***hole. I hope beltran rests well because he can really put european climbing under fire. see giro bio 2010. he has only improved since then as shows him winning an itt.

Why did it take so long for him to finally come to Europe? His own choice, or pressure from the team to stay in Colombia? Because in the Giro bio back then, he was way better than someone like Winner Anacona.