Stage 10 - Wednesday, July 14 2010, Chambéry - Gap, 179 km

[The Hitch]

Serbia is in eastern europe or have i confused it with spain?

Edit: While we are having this exciting geographical talk, where is the difference between Holland and the Netherlands? Learned Holland as a child.. and now everyone uses netherlands.. what gives!

Holland is part of the Netherlands. Kind of like calling Germany bavaria.

 

[badboyberty]

Maybe the go slow is a protest against the pants-suits.

 

[Hawkwood]

Nope. Holland are the two coastal provinces (North and South-Holland) whereas The Netherlands refers to the entire country. Although most people, even in The Netherlands, refer to the country as Holland. And "Nederland" is the Dutch translation of "Netherlands".

`Holland' is also a place name in the UK, mainly in marshy areas in Lancashire. I was told that it means `hollow-land', but whether this is true or not is a different matter.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Which of the six?

None of these 6 in the break has a fast finish.
All are 30 mins behind the MJ.
Who could be the winner?

Mario Aerts (Omega Pharma-Lotto),
Dries Devenyns (QuickStep),
Sergio Paolinho (RadioShack),
Vasili Kiryienka (Caisse d'Epargne),
Maxime Bouet (Ag2r)
Pierre Rolland (Bbox)

Could it be RS's day?

 

[Straßenrennen]

Holland is part of the Netherlands. Kind of like calling Germany bavaria.

Speaking to some tourists you'd think Munich is the only city in Germany... they might as well rename it lol.

Joking aside, nice example.

 

[Cerberus]

No, just a terrible, terrible nickname that (as far as I can tell) no-one except CN's very own Dan Benson uses. I think he may have invented it.

I've never heard it before, but I suppose it makes sense in an incredibly tortured puny sort of way.

 

[Hawkwood]

None of these 6 in the break has a fast finish.
All are 30 mins behind the MJ.
Who could be the winner?

Mario Aerts (Omega Pharma-Lotto),
Dries Devenyns (QuickStep),
Sergio Paolinho (RadioShack),
Vasili Kiryienka (Caisse d'Epargne),
Maxime Bouet (Ag2r)
Pierre Rolland (Bbox)

Could it be RS's day?

If it's a sprint the Belgian.

 

[sportzchick]

Speaking to some tourists you'd think Munich is the only city in Germany... they might as well rename it lol.

Joking aside, nice example.

if thats the case we should change to Australia to either Brisbane, Melbourne or Sydney

 

[Jamsque]

Call me sentimental, but I'd like to see a Frenchman win on Bastille day. I'm rooting for Rolland.

 

[Cobblestones]

Call me sentimental, but I'd like to see a Frenchman win on Bastille day. I'm rooting for Rolland.

Probably the two French riders will cover each other, and a third guy wins it.

 

[Moondance]

To end the Netherlands vs. Holland debate once and for all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSf2O80brbU

 

[sportzchick]

SO where does calling them the Dutch come from then?????????

Call me sentimental, but I'd like to see a Frenchman win on Bastille day. I'm rooting for Rolland.

okay sentimental

nah seriously it would be nice

 

[Straßenrennen]

Paulinho is my pick for the stage... lets hope he hits the gas on the next uphill.

 

[badboyberty]

If it's a sprint the Belgian.

Which Belgian?

 

[Zoncolan]

Servia is considered Balkan as far as I'm concerned. Eastern Europe is a not narrowed down at all though, you could consider the Balkan part of Eastern Europe.

Other thing: the right name is The Netherlands. We have 2 provinces in the west that are called Noord-Holland and Zuid-Holland, that's Holland. Somehow Holland is used for The Netherlands a lot, even in the other provinces.

Both are good, but only Netherlands is correct.

I'm from Serbia, and yes it's in the Balkans.
South East Europe. Eastern Europe starts with Moldova, and includes the Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.
We call the Netherlands Holland here. Don't ask me why.

 

[franciep10]

Which Belgian?

aerts, nothing going on today

 

[badboyberty]

SO where does calling them the Dutch come from then?????????

....

Because they speak Low German and we can't spell Deutsch.

 

[Straßenrennen]

To end the Netherlands vs. Holland debate once and for all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSf2O80brbU

Seinfeld, the joint greatest show ever with Cheers and Becker!

 

[Hawkwood]

Which Belgian?

Dries Devenyns see:
http://www.dewielersite.net/db2/wielersite/coureurfiche.php?coureurid=13195

 

[Jamsque]

I'm from Serbia, and yes it's in the Balkans.
South East Europe. Eastern Europe starts with Moldova, and includes the Ukraine, Belarus and Russia.
We call the Netherlands Holland here. Don't ask me why.

I never really thought of Russia as being part of Eastern Europe. Sure, it starts at the East end of Europe, but most of it is in Asia, and it's so huge that putting it in a category with all it's former satellite states seems weird.

 

[sportzchick]

Seinfeld, the joint greatest show ever with Cheers and Becker!

i think its overated myself - never got into it

btw did you see the drop of that bridge they had to cross

 

[Spare Tyre]

I never really thought of Russia as being part of Eastern Europe. Sure, it starts at the East end of Europe, but most of it is in Asia, and it's so huge that putting it in a category with all it's former satellite states seems weird.

Nah, having the Middle East to the west seems weird.

 

[ak-zaaf]

I never really thought of Russia as being part of Eastern Europe. Sure, it starts at the East end of Europe, but most of it is in Asia, and it's so huge that putting it in a category with all it's former satellite states seems weird.

I consider Russia Russia.

/Bouet is struggling.
My stage pick purely based on sentiments from the Spa stage =/

 

[The Hitch]

I never really thought of Russia as being part of Eastern Europe. Sure, it starts at the East end of Europe, but most of it is in Asia, and it's so huge that putting it in a category with all it's former satellite states seems weird.

Eastern Europe can usually apply to anything that
a) has a slavic language as its predominant language
b) has orthodox christianity as its predominant religion
c) was in the soviet block

Most ee countries have 3 out of 3. Some have 2 out of 3. Greece has 1 out of 3.

Russia fits all 3

 

[Jamsque]

Bouet has been fully dropped now. Not all that far to the summit, so he might have a chance to chase back on