Tour de France Stage 4: Amiens – Rouen (174.2k)

[kingjr]

That was fun!

Jonas a bit on the rivet there for a minute, but fought back...though unfortunately, I think I can see a future where he doesn't battle back to Pog's wheel.

How about he takes yellow tomorrow?

 

[Miha81]

The trouble for us fans is that Pogacar rode like this both when he won and when he lost, so who the f… knows where we are week 3?

Suspension is good for the race. Vinge seems in top shape so it should be interesting in the mountains (I hope).

 

[Mayomaniac]

Does he have to use the KOM?

Yeah, he actually has, even while having the same points as Wellens, I didn't realize that one.
One for the big book of excuses if the TT goes meh...

 

[Filippo_3467]

Expected Lipowitz to loose time today, but that's a bit much. Was he caught up in the crash as well or did he drop all of that climbing?

Was far behind after a split in a decsent. He's relitvely new to the sport and just bad at positioning, so I think climbing level still fine, he just needs a lot of team support or a few years more experinece to manage a day like today.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

I thought the way Jonas cam back to Pog on that climb spoke very loudly. I think Pog was surprised as he had given it his full power and was holding on for respite

 

[Devil's Elbow]

Pogacar just 12 points away from green, with a good TT tomorrow he could already be the owner of three jerseys.

 

[ontheroad]

It looked like he had a little mechanical when Pog was really attacking, lost a little, then pretty easily caught back up again. He's ready for this Tour.

Would like to see the replay of when he was dropped on the climb. If seemed slightly bizarre how he was momentarily dropped then rode back up to Pog quite easily before the top.

Initially I thought he had blown up completely.

 

[tp4493]

Visma is definitely going to try double team Pogi again this year with Jorgenson/Vingo

Alameida

 

[theyoungest]

I was a bit surprised that Jonas was so strong on the punchy climbs. He looks great, so far.

Remember that last year Vingegaard was also surprisingly strong on San Luca.

I did like the psychological game on the climb though, he had to sit earlier than Pogi but then saw Pogi couldn't continue out of the saddle either and rode back to his wheel.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I’m talking about before they let Almeida back, when they were just 6 (5?) in the front group.

Jorgenson tried, when he was caught back Vingegaard swerved to look for WvA instead of countering.

Almeida came back with Jorgenson (and Remco, MVDP, Onley).

 

[Mayomaniac]

It looked like he was dropped in the downhill before the last hill. He was leading the chase there.

I think similar to Gall, but Gall was already caught behind earlier when split happened because of meh positioning/triathlon background levels of bikehandling skills.

 

[Red Rick]

Vingegaard also looked impressive last year on San Luca and we know how that Tour ended. Not possible to make conclusions about Jonas from a stage like this.

Then Pogacar waited until the hardest part was over. Here he had his team pace for 25km to set up this attack. Then when Vingegaard seemed to crack, he actually came back. Last year when he bonked he was just gone.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

How about he takes yellow tomorrow?

That would be a welcome sight...it will certainly gauge what we might expect for the rest of the Tour.

 

[BubbaChuck]

pog needs to start working on his punch again,cant drop vinge on short climbs anymore,lol.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

oops comms on ITV calling Onley an Englishman ....there will be blood

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Yeah, he actually has, even while having the same points as Wellens, I didn't realize that one.
One for the big book of excuses if the TT goes meh...

He will probably accidentally spill maple syrup all over it at the breakfast table and therefore have to use his regular kit.

 

[Moose McKnuckles]

Last year when he bonked he was just gone.

Well, Jonas did bridge back up and outsprint Pog on Stage 11 last year.

 

[AnotherArmChair]

I have to say about DSM (formley) but now Postal Picnic they know how to spot and encourage young talent ..So many riders can be great with them , then leave and do nothing

 

[tobydawq]

B E A U T I F U L

100 🆆🅸🅽🆂

(also Vingo already in half trouble...)

What do you mean by that? Pogi evidently couldn't drop Vingegaard on that climb.

 

[Didinho]

Wellens and Campenaerts celebrating nothing. Give them a red card.

 

[Samamba]

I have to say about DSM (formley) but now Postal Picnic they know how to spot and encourage young talent ..So many riders can be great with them , then leave and do nothing

Hmm, till you realize they just took all the best juniors till a few years ago. There's more competition in recruitment now, it will get worse for them, just like every other smaller team that was focussing on young talent.

At least they are now keeping them somewhat happy and managing to devolop them better than let's say 5 years ago, but it isn't rocket science.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Onley crashed with 20k to go and had to chase back too

 

[Rou]

What do you mean by that? Pogi evidently couldn't drop Vingegaard on that climb.

Who here actually believed that Tadej can drop Jonas on this hill? What I saw today is enough for me to know what's up.

 

[BubbaChuck]

this was vdp hilly hill and joan looked cooked.thats minute on aclimb.

 

[theyoungest]

Benoot said they didn't go too crazy because they wanted to keep Van Aert in the group... I'm sorry but Visma need to get realistic about that guy, I'm almost starting to feel sympathy for Trine Vingegaard. Forget about Wout and just race.