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so they climbed Colombier 1m49seconds faster than in 2020. (while still arriving with a large group like in 2020.)

They did two cat 1 climbs before the Colombier 3 years ago though (& the stage was longer). So that will have taken more out of them compared to this ascent, I assume.

In other news, in his post race interview, Gaudu said he's at 100% of his physical capabilities & the riders in front of him have seen their performance increase by 5x since Paris-Nice:

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The way his comment is getting interpreted on various sites this evening is obvious, i.e. he's saying "they're doping, I'm clean".
 
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it helps a lot that the route was a junior stage today but damn, thats insane
GC record just isn't the fastest record out there. They've never gone full throttle in the first 10km where you lose buckets of time to an ideal pacing schedule.

Vingegaard did Marie Blanque 1'30 faster than in 2020 after a similar stage, which is considerably more of a difference than taking 1'50 off the GC record which was by far the slowest climbing time in the 2020 Tour.

A climb and stage that compares very nicely is PSM 2015, and this was barely faster than that. So all things considering, this is very slow by 2023 standards.
 
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Are there any top-10 times of mountains/cols that we can include the riders of this Tour in? I've looked around but cannot find these lists this time around.
 
View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1680242065643388932


Probably they would have been very close beating or getting within seconds of Panatani times... with 2 riders. (33:51s according to tracker data). With Rodriguez gaining 40s instead of losing time... it would have been very close.

And Rodriguez also with a top time, like Padun in 2021

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View: https://twitter.com/velofacts/status/1680242343822127104
 
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Jumbo and UAE doctors right now before tomorrows stage:
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Say they break the record. Who would care at this point?

Professionalism, training, bikes, special pillows and human evolution would be fed to the public. And you know the core audience mamils will buy anything. Pros can improve ergo I can improve, and that's that.
 
I believe they were on track for the record.

I was actually following the climbing time vs kilometers left. They needed like 21 kph for the last 4-5 km (so 2100+ m/h of VAM) to do this. The record was unrealistic. I think they could've ridden about 30 seconds off Pantani's time. Pogacar probably cooked himself a bit with this attack and Vinge also dug very deep to bridge the gap. The slowing down wasn't only tactical imo.
 

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