I know, and I think that he can finish in the podium and not necessarily in second or third position.Dekker_Tifosi said:This wasn't Kruijswijks type of climb, and still he did pretty well considering.pablohidalgo7 said:He was decent today, but he should be better in the coming days.
He has a good ITT and superb recuperation. I think he can do top 5, he should've done top 5 last year already..
I share your worries, but the past has shown us he's doesn't fade.jens_attacks said:i begin to be worried that he will crack in the 3rd week. i hope it won't happen, so far he was perfect.
KröjjsvajjkJackRabbitSlims said:The more I see of this guy, the more I'm beginning to like him......still figuring out how to pronounce that surname though.
Maybe he has to change the ij into y like Cruyff and others did. So it would be Kruyswyk. Less difficult I guessHakkapelit said:KröjjsvajjkJackRabbitSlims said:The more I see of this guy, the more I'm beginning to like him......still figuring out how to pronounce that surname though.![]()
It's not hard per se (depending on your linguistic background, of course), but it's not easy to anticipate what it should be like if you don't know a bit about Dutch orthography.Red Rick said:I never understand why pronounciations like these are hard. And it's not because its my native language.
I'm gonna assume you're taking the p!ss here??.....yes, I know all about assumptionsRed Rick said:I never understand why pronounciations like these are hard. And it's not because its my native language.
On topic, really like what he's been doing so far. By far my favourite rider from Lotto-Jumbo. Official Dutch Giro-tard. Aggro ginger. I love it. May get really far if he continues to improve like he normally does, but then the 3 favourites were probably all below par today.
Without hearing the word from someone Dutch-speaking it will be hard for almost anyone who doesn't speak Dutch, as every language has their own special niches. For example: Leicester. Tell me that you would manage to pronounce that, or even better Worcestershire, without hearing it from an English person first. Even then, it is still pretty damn hard to pronounce.Red Rick said:I never understand why pronounciations like these are hard. And it's not because its my native language.
Who made the list? Beppe Conti?SafeBet said:Before today's stage RAI showed a top10 including only GC guys. They put Birdsong, Zakarin, Chaves and pretty much everybody with a shot at a top10. But they left Kruijswijk out.
Big mistake.
Yeah, the live commentators are good (Silvio Martinello is good), but the other members of their team can be a bit ignorant and Beppe Conti is just Beppe Conti...Dekker_Tifosi said:have the feeling RAI is sometimes a bit dumb.
Place names are a completely different matter though. Their spelling is fossilized to a greater extent than in surnames, and thus they aren't really representative of the language.Brullnux said:Without hearing the word from someone Dutch-speaking it will be hard for almost anyone who doesn't speak Dutch, as every language has their own special niches. For example: Leicester. Tell me that you would manage to pronounce that, or even better Worcestershire, without hearing it from an English person first. Even then, it is still pretty damn hard to pronounce.Red Rick said:I never understand why pronounciations like these are hard. And it's not because its my native language.
Sure, but Dutch phonology is outside the experience of speakers of most other languages. It's not that a name like Kruijswijk is tricky to those who know the rules, it's that the rules are different to those non-Dutch speakers understand.hrotha said:Place names are a completely different matter though. Their spelling is fossilized to a greater extent than in surnames, and thus they aren't really representative of the language.Brullnux said:Without hearing the word from someone Dutch-speaking it will be hard for almost anyone who doesn't speak Dutch, as every language has their own special niches. For example: Leicester. Tell me that you would manage to pronounce that, or even better Worcestershire, without hearing it from an English person first. Even then, it is still pretty damn hard to pronounce.Red Rick said:I never understand why pronounciations like these are hard. And it's not because its my native language.
"Kruijswijk" is not odd at all - it's perfectly consistent with Dutch phonology and, more to the point, Dutch orthography.
But every language's phonology is different and you can't pick it up without listening to a native speaker, that was my point.hrotha said:Place names are a completely different matter though. Their spelling is fossilized to a greater extent than in surnames, and thus they aren't really representative of the language.Brullnux said:Without hearing the word from someone Dutch-speaking it will be hard for almost anyone who doesn't speak Dutch, as every language has their own special niches. For example: Leicester. Tell me that you would manage to pronounce that, or even better Worcestershire, without hearing it from an English person first. Even then, it is still pretty damn hard to pronounce.Red Rick said:I never understand why pronounciations like these are hard. And it's not because its my native language.
"Kruijswijk" is not odd at all - it's perfectly consistent with Dutch phonology and, more to the point, Dutch orthography.