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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Krzysztof_O

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Cookster15 said:
Of course. I can see Toby’s point that perception of risk riding P-R doesn’t reflect the true risk. But at the end of the day Pogi is less physically suited to P-R than SB or MSR. P-R is a flat parcours.

Seems like accepting a small increased risk of injury for lower probability of success.

Anyway it’s Pog’s call not ours. Will be fun to follow him just hope he gets through unscathed.
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He couldn't help himself and had to try it at some point. No hills and there are a few big boys that can beat him. If it turns out to be a bad idea he won't try it again but regretting not trying isn't an option for him.
 
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Gratemans

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Red Rick said:
I think it's just funny that probably nobody who has a very strong opinion about the safety or danger of riding Paris-Roubaix has actually run the numbers.
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Thought about doing that this afternoon, then realised I follow cycling for fun.

Anyway, I don't see Pog win here. Definitely top 5 though, or somewhere thereabouts. And I absolutely love that he's giving it a shot. No risk no reward. And the risk isn't that big anyway, according to my totally unscientific gut feeling.
 
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Poursuivant

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Krzysztof_O said:
He couldn't help himself and had to try it at some point. No hills and there are a few big boys that can beat him. If it turns out to be a bad idea he won't try it again but regretting not trying isn't an option for him.
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I think he will try PR several times in his career, he wants to win all 5 monuments, he can probably do MSR, LBL and Lombardia near enough every year. RVV and PR might depend on other factors, ie risk/targetting other races etc.
 
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Gratemans

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Peyroteo94 said:
His only chance of winning PR is faking weakness in a crucial moment and then do a sneaky attack.
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On the one hand, I'm thinking "That's a pretty good idea, if there's any race where that might work it's PR".

But on the other hand... PR is a flat race. It's about pure flat power and technique. So, where should he pull it off? It should be on a difficult cobbled section but not too far from the finish. Because after he pulls it off, he still has to stay ahead. He might get rid of others that way, but not Mathieu imo.
 
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Gratemans said:
On the one hand, I'm thinking "That's a pretty good idea, if there's any race where that might work it's PR".

But on the other hand... PR is a flat race. It's about pure flat power and technique. So, where should he pull it off? It should be on a difficult cobbled section but not too far from the finish. Because after he pulls it off, he still has to stay ahead. He might get rid of others that way, but not Mathieu imo.
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No. After a cobbled section where things calm down and reset. It's a classic move and done all the time. It's about the same as attacking over the top of a mountain when everyone is spent. From that point on its a TT and you can hope group 2 syndrome sets in.
 
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Poursuivant said:
I think he will try PR several times in his career, he wants to win all 5 monuments, he can probably do MSR, LBL and Lombardia near enough every year. RVV and PR might depend on other factors, ie risk/targetting other races etc.
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If this PR doesn't end up as complete debacle causing them to focus on other races then he will surely try it a few more times till the end of his career (not expecting annual participation though, it's not MSR).
 
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Peyroteo94

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Gratemans said:
On the one hand, I'm thinking "That's a pretty good idea, if there's any race where that might work it's PR".

But on the other hand... PR is a flat race. It's about pure flat power and technique. So, where should he pull it off? It should be on a difficult cobbled section but not too far from the finish. Because after he pulls it off, he still has to stay ahead. He might get rid of others that way, but not Mathieu imo.
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Pogacar is probably the third best flat time triallist after Ganna and WVA (I'm only counting favourites). It is not all about power and technique, there is also CDA. For some reason, MVP didn't catch Pogacar after Paterberg in 2023. Of course I give the edge to MVP on the cobbles but on asphalt, Pogacar would be a tough guy to catch. And I'm not sure MVP is willing to push like a mad man if somehow Pogacar is in the front alone (unless MVP is alone too behind).
 
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