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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Krzysztof_O

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Legend! PR is on. Can't wait to see him ride "Hell of the North". Not the biggest favourite there but his participation will definitely be felt and will make the race more exciting! The goal is probably just to see what he can do in this race without too much pressure. Can this race be dangerous and risky regarding the Tour? Sure but it was inevitable that an all-round champion like him would try it at some point.

BTW: Now it's clear that Pogi is the real DS in UAE team. Both Gianetti and Matxin were against this Roubaix idea in recent weeks/months. However, they had no choice if they wanted to stay in the team. Otherwise Pogi would fire them.
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
Legend! PR is on. Can't wait to see him ride "Hell of the North". Not the biggest favourite there but his participation will definitely be felt and will make the race more exciting! The goal is probably just to see what he can do in this race without too much pressure. Can this race be dangerous and risky regarding the Tour? Sure but it was inevitable that an all-round champion like him would try it at some point.

BTW: Now it's clear that Pogi is the real DS in UAE team. Both Gianetti and Matxin were against this idea in recent weeks/months. However, they had no choice if they wanted to stay in the team. Otherwise Pogi would fire them.
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You don't say.
At least, this comical idea has made this thread fun again.
 
Peyroteo94

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I have an inside info that after the finish in sanremo there was a tense fight between pog & narvaez in the bus with pog shouting at jonny for why he lead him out too fast on cipressa & jhonny blaming pog for his missed chance in the race eventually Gianneti had to interfere & decided to pull out both of them from E3 and its said that their participation in the team is no longer certain for the future.
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You made my day.
 
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E_F_ said:
I love that Pogacar is going for all 5 monuments and racing P-R. But I honestly think he might be risking his RvV by not doing any of the warm up races. Usually the winner of that race does race at least one of them:

2024: E3, G-W
2023: E3
2022: DdV
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It is normal. How many good classics riders don't race those races and race RVV?
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
Legend! PR is on. Can't wait to see him ride "Hell of the North". Not the biggest favourite there but his participation will definitely be felt and will make the race more exciting! The goal is probably just to see what he can do in this race without too much pressure. Can this race be dangerous and risky regarding the Tour? Sure but it was inevitable that an all-round champion like him would try it at some point.

BTW: Now it's clear that Pogi is the real DS in UAE team. Both Gianetti and Matxin were against this idea in recent weeks/months. However, they had no choice if they wanted to stay in the team. Otherwise Pogi would fire them.
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I remember we had a conversation about this topic. I think we’re both surprised it came already this year? But why not. He is a pure ciclismo at heart. I think we both see a certain someone else as a good favorite here for good reasons, but honestly, I like that Pog just doesn’t care, he’s also almost ridiculously strong now, reinventing how they even ride MSR now.

There are a few unknowns regarding PR to what extent at least, and hopefully, we get a few answers there. It also serves as a learning curve for future years and for his case more planning around it with clever methodologies and specific, gain weight around it. If he’s ever going to stand atop, he needs the experience, in my eyes, he’s got nothing to lose. (aside from the risk of a brutal crash)
 
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James M said:
I remember we had a conversation about this topic. I think we’re both surprised it came already this year? But why not. He is a pure ciclismo at heart. I think we both see a certain someone else as a good favorite here for good reasons, but honestly, I like that Pog just doesn’t care, he’s also almost ridiculously strong now, reinventing how they even ride MSR now.

There are a few unknowns regarding PR to what extent at least, and hopefully, we get a few answers there. It also serves as a learning curve for future years and for his case more planning around it with clever methodologies and specific gain weight around it. If he’s ever going to stand atop, he needs the experience, in my eyes, he’s got nothing to lose. (aside from the risk of a brutal crash)
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A crash is the main risk but results-wise nothing to lose. Not #1 favourite, race just to see how he compares vs PR specialists and if future attempts make sense. Sure he will want to win but it's difficult OFC.

As for his participation, when he had a recon of all cobbles sectors I started thinking the start is likely soon. When he said it was easier than he thought I realized that bosses of the team may not be able to prevent him from racing it anymore.
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
A crash is the main risk but results-wise nothing to lose. Not #1 favourite, race just to see how he compares vs PR specialists and if future attempts make sense. Sure he will want to win but it's difficult OFC.

As for his participation, when he had a recon of all cobbles sectors I started thinking the start is likely soon. When he said it was easier than he thought I realized that bosses of the team may not be able to prevent him from racing it anymore.
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When he said that I thought "Oh, he can win PR".
 
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I have an inside info that after the finish in sanremo there was a tense fight between pog & narvaez in the bus with pog shouting at jonny for why he lead him out too fast on cipressa & jhonny blaming pog for his missed chance in the race eventually Gianneti had to interfere & decided to pull out both of them from E3 and its said that their participation in the team is no longer certain for the future.
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Idk why some are taking this info as a joke. There was a clear swelling on both faces & its said pog broke his teeth during the fight so the management thought its better to hide them from public for some time so that it remains a secret within the team. Do you think its coincidence both are missing their original program of E3 & ghent? U can mention a reason for pog but narvaez was preparing for this races all winter😳
 
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Idk why some are taking this info as a joke. There was a clear swelling on both faces & its said pog broke his teeth during the fight so the management thought its better to hide them from public for some time so that it remains a secret within the team. Do you think its coincidence both are missing their original program of E3 & ghent? U can mention a reason for pog but narvaez was preparing for this races all winter😳
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At least he is not the GOAT of boxing.
 
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Idk why some are taking this info as a joke. There was a clear swelling on both faces & its said pog broke his teeth during the fight so the management thought its better to hide them from public for some time so that it remains a secret within the team. Do you think its coincidence both are missing their original program of E3 & ghent? U can mention a reason for pog but narvaez was preparing for this races all winter😳
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His teeth look okay to me.
 
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E_F_ said:
I love that Pogacar is going for all 5 monuments and racing P-R. But I honestly think he might be risking his RvV by not doing any of the warm up races. Usually the winner of that race does race at least one of them:

2024: E3, G-W
2023: E3
2022: DdV
2021: E3, DdV
2020: G-W
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Well, for your usual Flanders contender these races are amongst the most important in the calendar so it doesn't make sense to skip them.

For Pogacar these races are quite low in the pecking order, so skipping them isn't much of a surprise in the grand scheme of things.
 
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yaf2 said:
Idk why some are taking this info as a joke. There was a clear swelling on both faces & its said pog broke his teeth during the fight so the management thought its better to hide them from public for some time so that it remains a secret within the team. Do you think its coincidence both are missing their original program of E3 & ghent? U can mention a reason for pog but narvaez was preparing for this races all winter😳
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You missed this by 5 days my dude!
 
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