Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Berniece]

The problem is Vlaeminck is a legend because cycling was a national sport in his era. If he was racing in this era, MVP would smoke him with one leg. Him and his brother in cyclocross.
Cycling in the 60s/70s is like snooker in the 30s

The lack of respect you have for riders from an older era is astonishing

 

[Merckx]

The lack of respect you have for riders from an older era is astonishing

Respect goes both ways and RDV has shown nothing but contempt (if not outright arrogance) towards the talented riders of the eras that followed him.

At this point he seemingly exists only to provide rage-bait opinions.. Not totally dissimilar to certain posters on this forum actually.

 

[Red Rick]

Champions from 30-40 years ago having garbage opinions on the current state of the sport is a problem all sports suffer from.

 

[Salvarani]

Respect goes both ways and RDV has shown nothing but contempt (if not outright arrogance) towards the talented riders of the eras that followed him.

At this point he seemingly exists only to provide rage-bait opinions.. Not totally dissimilar to certain posters on this forum actually.

That is correct.

 

[Salvarani]

I'd pay attention to mou's insight, but we are getting perilously close to april fools day. I don't know who to believe!

He will be even more truthful, I reckon. That guy is always right.

 

[Berniece]

Respect goes both ways and RDV has shown nothing but contempt (if not outright arrogance) towards the talented riders of the eras that followed him.

At this point he seemingly exists only to provide rage-bait opinions.. Not totally dissimilar to certain posters on this forum actually.

What was his bait now towards Pogacar?

 

[RedheadDane]

Just a reminder; last time he reached the velodrome in Roubaix, he ended up as number 13.











(Okay, it was in 2016, and he was 17. A few things has happened since...)

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Just a reminder; last time he reached the velodrome in Roubaix, he ended up as number 13.











(Okay, it was in 2016, and he was 17. A few things has happened since...)

Yes, in 2016 Felix Gall finished close to Pogačar in 18th, yet I don‘t think he could finish 18th in Roubaix this year.

 

[snipeheem]

The lack of respect you have for riders from an older era is astonishing

thats the truth, Lebron said couple days ago that in 70s giannis would score 250 points per game and he wasnt lying, thats just pure facts.

 

[scribers]

50 years from now riders and fans will be certain they’ve evolved into the greatest athletes in history. Who among this crop will step up to defend it?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

The problem is Vlaeminck is a legend because cycling was a national sport in his era. If he was racing in this era, MVP would smoke him with one leg. Him and his brother in cyclocross.
Cycling in the 60s/70s is like snooker in the 30s

It's like snooker in the 80s. /rant

 

[topcat]

What did RDV say that was so outrageous?
RDV and I are feeling sick, while it's balloons and party hats for the rest of you.
Does RDV have his own thread? We're looking into it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It's like snooker in the 80s. /rant

Don't want to be mean to Davis. But he got a reality check when he faced Hendry. We have a different snooker before and after Hendry.

 

[Peyroteo94]

View this content on Instagram

View this content on Instagram

View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHtd1huN5dP/?igsh=MWc4NnZwanBqcXhkNg==

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Don't want to be mean to Davis. But he got a reality check when he faced Hendry. We have a different snooker before and after Hendry.

That would suggest Merckx is actually Hendry and not Fred Davis, as you first implied. I still think he's more of a Steve Davis myself, or perhaps a Ray Reardon with an improved set of teeth.

Unlike snooker in the 30s, road cycling and its biggest races already had a long history by the time of the late 60s. Merckx didn't invent the sport nor was he around when it happened. He also wasn't the first rider to win a lot of races.

 

[assisting]

I think Philipsen has benefitted twice from being MVDP's teammate at Roubaix.

Certainly. He also benefited greatly at M-SR, but wasn't that the point? Together they make a package that is difficult to beat at these races.

That said, I don't think he had much to do with him winning the race on either occasion

Also true, but MvdP is of course exceptional. Otherwise if you regularly have the fastest sprint at the end and can hang on competitors, you might impede chasing and improve the odds for your teammate. Didn't Philipsen do that with van Aert 2023 (who arguably only tried to secure 2nd)?

 

[ciranda]

thats the truth, Lebron said couple days ago that in 70s giannis would score 250 points per game and he wasnt lying, thats just pure facts.

pogacar would win 500 races a year like Merkcxs if he had raced in the 1970s

 

[Peyroteo94]

pogacar would win 500 races a year like Merkcxs if he had raced in the 1970s

It is just a different sport.

 

[James M]

The troll is back!

Monsieur Paris-Roubaix Roger De Vlaeminck: "Tadej Pogacar? Wij reden toch ook alle koersen?" | sporza

Dat Tadej Pogacar (26) over enkele weken voor het eerst zal deelnemen aan Parijs-Roubaix, wordt overal met enthousiasme onthaald. Voor een meer kritische blik ben je in Eeklo dan weer aan het juiste adres. Roger De Vlaeminck geeft op zijn 77e nog altijd zijn ongezouten mening. "Dat de renners nu...

sporza.be

Haha, these are the handful kind of people who say Pogacar isn’t better than Merckx already. The same people—nostalgia has taken over their brain—are incapable of looking forward, objectify common sense, have no idea what’s going on around them, and literally think the world stands still.

I’m sure the same guy believes the T-Ford is better than Bugatti Chiron too if asked, while simultaneously needing help to operate his phone half the week. Absolutely hilarious.

 

[James M]

Wasn't this the same guy who started to cry when Pogacar crushed everyone by 3 minutes and lifted his bike over his head at the finish line? Poor guy, I hope he has stockpiled whatever meds he takes because he's gonna need them.

 

[Extinction]

RDV is just a brash Flandrian. I wouldn't get all worked up about it, rather just enjoy the entertainment. Rest asured, if he were racing today he'd benefit from all the advancements and play the game like everyone else. He just comes from a different mentality, a way of life that's incompatibile with the milder tone (doubtless he would say hipocrisy) of today.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Wasn't this the same guy who started to cry when Pogacar crushed everyone by 3 minutes and lifted his bike over his head at the finish line? Poor guy, I hope he has stockpiled whatever meds he takes because he's gonna need them.

Yup. It is crazy to defend this guy, specially when half of the peloton was already mocked by RdV.

 

[rokovski]

Lance in Slovenia saying that he wont win nothing against Pogacar.

 

[snipeheem]

Lance in Slovenia saying that he wont win nothing against Pogacar.

Respect to LA for calling Pog the goat

 

[Berniece]

Yup. It is crazy to defend this guy, specially when half of the peloton was already mocked by RdV.

No one is defending him