Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Red Rick]

If I was him / the team, I would probably go for a schedule similar to this year, because it seemed to work pretty well and there are a lot of races he can excel in and a few good preparation races as well. Next year, to avoid boredom, I would then try something new, or better, I would place two new minor races this year in his calendar already, but next year I would go for an actually different schedule. Maybe start later, don't do the UAE Tour, but put in Flanders...

UAE is not a minor race for his team.

I'd consider skipping Pais Vasco maybe. Would definitely not do Amstel unless I skipped that one.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

He should do Dwars door Het Hageland as prep for the TDF.

Mayne he should try some ski jumping.

 

[BlueRoads]

He should do Dwars door Het Hageland as prep for the TDF.

Mayne he should try some ski jumping.

I don't know. History has not yet shown ski jumping is a good preparation for winning the Tour

 

[Krzysztof_O]

UAE is not a minor race for his team.

I'd consider skipping Pais Vasco maybe. Would definitely not do Amstel unless I skipped that one.

Skipping UAE probably means returning millions of $$$ to the sheiks. Not a good option for Pogi.
Skipping Pais Vasco makes sense - Roglic peaks for it and is planning to win 10 in a row.

 

[BlueRoads]

UAE is not a minor race for his team.

I'd consider skipping Pais Vasco maybe. Would definitely not do Amstel unless I skipped that one.

Yeah, I know UAE is important for them, but it also seems a bit nonsensical to me to have this fact determine the start of the season for him each year. Not that he had problems with starting early, he still won Lombardia... but to leave it out could shake things up, which I think is usually necessary at one point if you are so dominant so young. Maybe Almeida (or someone else) has stepped up by then so far that he is missed but it's not a no-go not to send him there.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Yeah, I know UAE is important for them, but it also seems a bit nonsensical to me to have this fact determine the start of the season for him each year. Not that he had problems with starting early, he still won Lombardia... but to leave it out could shake things up, which I think is usually necessary at one point if you are so dominant so young. Maybe Almeida (or someone else) has stepped up by then so far that he is missed but it's not a no-go not to send him there.

UAE is end of February, it's not an early start.

 

[BlueRoads]

UAE is end of February, it's not an early start.

Depends on who you compare it to I'd say - and I don't mean him just starting there, but he's already supposed to be in really good form then to win it.

 

[tobydawq]

It collides with Basque Country because of flipped date with Roubax

That's true.

 

[tobydawq]

Depends on who you compare it to I'd say - and I don't mean him just starting there, but he's already supposed to be in really good form then to win it.

You have a point but considering the seasons he has been having, it's a bit of an academic problem, I would say.

 

[yaco]

Actually the UAE Tour is the best one week stage races for the sprinters - It gives a pecking order.

 

[sir fly]

This year's schedule proved to be a pretty good program for Pogačar.
They've done it well in the skewed season too.
Being young makes adaptation easier. Even more so the further from the goal the changes are required.
Variations in the schedule, generally, should elongate youthful flexibility and adaptability.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Speaking about Pogacar's schedule it will be mostly the same as this year's. Hopefully he will take part in two GTs this time: Tour + Vuelta is most likely. Maybe Milan-San Remo as well to try another monument (if he doesn't go thermonuclear at Tirreno).

 

[Polarbear64]

UAE is not a minor race for his team.

I'd consider skipping Pais Vasco maybe. Would definitely not do Amstel unless I skipped that one.

yeah UAE as a race is probably the least satisfactory for him... limited climbs, warm dry weather etc. that said he's all about a challenge so doing well there... which of course he's going to be solicited to do above the rest of the season, is at least something different.

 

[Polarbear64]

Skipping UAE probably means returning millions of $$$ to the sheiks. Not a good option for Pogi.
Skipping Pais Vasco makes sense - Roglic peaks for it and is planning to win 10 in a row.

not a matter of returning as much as not making them happy/ having something to claim internationally in business ventures. but i still hold this isn't pogi's kinda race. so to see him do well in it is a challenge outside his 'specialty. or at least a chance to try out team dynamics.

 

[Froome]

Time for pogi try the double giro tour next year.

 

[Salvarani]

I think almost the same program.

If he would win a 3rd Tour, I dont think he is going Vuelta. Depends on how fresh he feels a week or so afterwards. There is a lot that comes with winning the Tour in the aftermath. Showing up to this and that. Interviews and so on. He is still young guy.

This year he did Olympics straight afterwards and was tired after that. Needed rest and recovery.

Was still in good form without doing Vuelta in the fall and peaked for Lombardia, executed perfectly.

 

[Lequack]

Very nice article about him today on the front page

The Youth of Tadej Pogacar

Procycling looks at the inexorable rise of the young Slovenian and the likelihood of a long period of domination

www.cyclingnews.com

"The first time I saw Tadej Pogacar at the grand départ of the Tour de France in Brest; I recall how he rolled onto the stage to great fanfare, though not as great a fanfare as the Breton riders, of course. Even then, I had to remind myself that off the bike, Pogacar’s probably a normal 22-year old kid, liking memes, spending his time in WhatsApp chats and hanging out with his girlfriend. But when he’s on a bike, he’s someone - something - else entirely. "

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

To be honest, I can‘t wait for UAE Tour 2022 to begin. Tadej will already have great shape by the end of February 2022.

Best thing would be that Roglic starts at UAE Tour, too. First battle of the Tour favourites...

 

[Jungle Cycle]

Time for pogi try the double giro tour next year.

not yet..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1460574354622791681

View: https://twitter.com/brunovicari/status/1460574354622791681

 

[Krzysztof_O]

not yet..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1460574354622791681

View: https://twitter.com/brunovicari/status/1460574354622791681

If he does Tour + Vuelta next year then Giro + Tour won't happen until 2024 (4 consecutive GTs is probably too much).

 

[CyclistAbi]

The thing is we assume Pogačar could win two GTs per season. But he has not yet done two GTs in one season. Personally i am not 100% sure he will ride two GTs in 2022. Likely the outcome of the Tour will again determine if he will do Vuelta or not in 2022.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

The thing is we assume Pogačar could win two GTs per season. But he has not yet done two GTs in one season. Personally i am not 100% sure he will ride two GTs in 2022. Likely the outcome of the Tour will again determine if he will do Vuelta or not in 2022.

We don't know if will win both but he will try it at some point surely. He missed Vuelta over the last 2 seasons due to fatigue indeed but the circumstances weren't usual (backloading of races in 2020 due to COVID and Olympics just after the Tour this year). I think there is a decent chance he will try Vuelta this year (if he's not completely wasted after the Tour OFC), he can skip it again as well though.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Tadej says he's like an egg

Tadej Pogacar: I can crack really fast, actually

Two-time Tour champion tells Geraint Thomas where his weaknesses lie

www.cyclingnews.com

I've only heard the whole podcast now. Some hilarious things going on there.

Pogacar basically tells Thomas (and the whole world) how to beat him, WTF? (promising to send details by SMS so that only G. really knew how to beat him). And then counter attacks asking when G. will win anything again, loool! Then one of the British guys mentions staying on the bike is essential to win (or something like this).
Some other gems as well: Pogi mentions that track riders (like Thomas) are too fat for climbing while the British guys mistaking Slovakia and Slovenia on purpose.

 

[Froome]

I've only heard the whole podcast now. Some hilarious things going on there.

Pogacar basically tells Thomas (and the whole world) how to beat him, WTF? (promising to send details by SMS so that only G. really knew how to beat him). And then counter attacks asking when G. will win anything again, loool! Then one of the British guys mentions staying on the bike is essential to win (or something like this).
Some other gems as well: Pogi mentions that track riders (like Thomas) are too fat for climbing while the British guys mistaking Slovakia and Slovenia on purpose.

Pogi trolling thomas

 

[Earns1985]

I've only heard the whole podcast now. Some hilarious things going on there.

Pogacar basically tells Thomas (and the whole world) how to beat him, WTF? (promising to send details by SMS so that only G. really knew how to beat him). And then counter attacks asking when G. will win anything again, loool! Then one of the British guys mentions staying on the bike is essential to win (or something like this).
Some other gems as well: Pogi mentions that track riders (like Thomas) are too fat for climbing while the British guys mistaking Slovakia and Slovenia on purpose.

Well the informations which Pogacar gave to the world how one can beat him, are informations which I also concluded following him and his results the last 2,5 years. Because me (and I think the majority of the people here) could conclude this, I think for the other teams this hasn´t been really usueful new information.