Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[MarioeTheo]

But to be fair most said it before they saw the helicopter shot. Seeing it from behind you don't really see how Johannessen came from behind and cut Pog off.

Believe most changed there mind after the helicopter view. Maybe those who accused Pog should have waited before more shots were shown. But hey, this is a forum, people react right away.

Yes, fair enough, it's very different seeing from the helicopter.

 

[Hugh Januss]

Most of them didn't turn until his crash. They turn after.

From the start of this short clip my monitor shows a QS rider jump hard from the middle of the road to the right side he is the first to react, he is followed by the Bora rider who was just in front of UNO-X rider also Jorgenson starts to react as well. THJ follows Bora (Lipowitz?) who is going for the QS wheel. The last 3 to respond are Vingo, Remco and Roglic and they start moving as Pogi is falling, so if by "most" you mean "about half" I will concede that point. Anyway I'm done beating this particular horse.

 

[pman]

This sort of thing is just part of our sport. There's a reason it's so hard to win Tour after Tour. Even if you're the best rider by a large margin, crashes happen in a 3 week bike race.

Obviously, none of us know Pog's condition. Maybe even Pog doesn't know the true impact of it. The timing is tough, the day before what might be the 3 decisive stages of the Tour. We'll see. I do think Jumbo is going to attack like crazy tomorrow. It would be poetic justice if they are over confident tomorrow and blew themselves up. I am a Pog fan who picked Jonas to win so I am obviously not super confident but then again, it is usually a bad idea to bet against Pog.

 

[yaf2]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945517766628323342

View: https://x.com/NBCSCycling/status/1945517766628323342?t=inDdIk2EJdl4fMvqQq0drA&s=19

Wow tejay wow..

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945517766628323342

View: https://x.com/NBCSCycling/status/1945517766628323342?t=inDdIk2EJdl4fMvqQq0drA&s=19

Wow tejay wow..

He is right. I don't like to see riders stopping just for Pogacar to comeback. One thing is attacking when he was coming from a pee break, other is waiting for him with 5 km to go. He would lose 30 seconds today, let's see if this will make any difference.

 

[Lorzenz08]

My prediction for tomorrow :

1) Visma hammer the first half of Hautacam.

2) Because UAE very weak, Pogi alone vs 4 Visma by km 3 of Hautacam.

3) Vingegaard attack with 5km to go. Pogi jumps on his wheel

4) Last 2km Vingegaard puts an attack, because of bad sleep and soreness Pogacar's fitness will be impacted and Vingegaard will distance Pogi.

5) Pogi loses 38 seconds to Vingegaard.

 

[fenns]

Seems like the paintwork is scratched but there should be no reason why the engine would be affected,

 

[QueenStagiaire]

Seems like the paintwork is scratched but there should be no reason why the engine would be affected,

If the rear wing is missing it can be worse than losing some engine power.

 

[Lorzenz08]

Seems like the paintwork is scratched but there should be no reason why the engine would be affected,

The engine might not be affected by the impact but it always needs good recovery after each efforts.

Scratch and skin abrasions impact sleep quality and thus recovery.

 

[yaf2]

He is right. I don't like to see riders stopping just for Pogacar to comeback. One thing is attacking when he was coming from a pee break, other is waiting for him with 5 km to go. He would lose 30 seconds today, let's see if this will make any difference.

Really? Saying "lets take advantage of his crash and lets win the race here" is this right? There was no stage win up for grabs or bonus seconds to fight for

 

[yaf2]

My prediction for tomorrow :

1) Visma hammer the first half of Hautacam.

2) Because UAE very weak, Pogi alone vs 4 Visma by km 3 of Hautacam.

3) Vingegaard attack with 5km to go. Pogi jumps on his wheel

4) Last 2km Vingegaard puts an attack, because of bad sleep and soreness Pogacar's fitness will be impacted and Vingegaard will distance Pogi.

5) Pogi loses 38 seconds to Vingegaard.

Imo pog just has to ride defensive for tomorrow. Follow jonas wheel and out sprint him at the line. No need for wasting energy, give the body time to heal by riding conservative & put the hammer down in the 3rd week

 

[Peyroteo94]

Really? Saying "lets take advantage of his crash and lets win the race here" is this right? There was no stage win up for grabs or bonus seconds to fight for

I understand your point but there is no other way they can beat him.

 

[yaf2]

I understand your point but there is no other way they can beat him.

There is a way & they were successful in trying to get in his head so far in the tour. hopefully he corrects that

 

[yaf2]

I understand your point but there is no other way they can beat him.

There is a way & they were successful in trying to get in his head so far in the tour. hopefully he corrects that

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945546563364835765

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1945546563364835765?t=t0o2acQcpCbc2cwexoMMuQ&s=19

They know they are in his head

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945546563364835765

View: https://x.com/laflammerouge16/status/1945546563364835765?t=t0o2acQcpCbc2cwexoMMuQ&s=19

They know they are in his head

No, they weren't. He would make a statement tomorrow.

 

[Rou]

Before the crash I expected the following from Pogacar on Hautacam :
Dropping Vingegaard with around 30 secs
Time on the climb: Around 34:00
Now I would be happy with staying with Vingegaard.

 

[jmdirt]

far from ideal to crash before the mountains. He must hope the damage road rash wise is minimal. Given he got up so quickly pretty clear there is nothing more serious than road rash, but road rash itself is far from optimum

You can't fall at that speed and have 'nothing but road rash'.

 

[snipeheem]

Before the crash I expected the following from Pogacar on Hautacam :
Dropping Vingegaard with around 30 secs
Time on the climb: Around 34:00
Now I would be happy with staying with Vingegaard.

Even over 30s was possible. If he loses to Jonas some time tomorrow he can go back to Slovenia straight away

 

[YavorD]

Even over 30s was possible. If he loses to Jonas some time tomorrow he can go back to Slovenia straight away

Come on, let's not overreact.
If he drops 30-40 seconds it's just game on.

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

To think that only a few hours ago, my biggest worry was the lack of mountain support.

Out on the bike to burn off some stress.

 

[Monsi]

Pogi's response to THJ's apology

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945553031367405604

View: https://x.com/Tim_Wellens/status/1945553031367405604

 

[rafa92]

Pogi's response to THJ's apology

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945553031367405604

View: https://x.com/Tim_Wellens/status/1945553031367405604

what did narvez say? something like "but keep trying"? Anyways I feel like pog is quite relaxed

 

[Lorzenz08]

Pogi's response to THJ's apology

https://twitter.com/x/status/1945553031367405604

View: https://x.com/Tim_Wellens/status/1945553031367405604

Pogi seems in good spirit

 

[Lorzenz08]

what did narvez say? something like "but keep trying"? Anyways I feel like pog is quite relaxed

I think he said " But keep the line eh "

 

[Jack_89]

No offence to anyone, a small advise: just relax and focus on somewhat else if you can't stop such bad feelings. He's there, he's fine and ready to give battle as always. Tour.is long, nothing's won nothing's lost yet. I wonder what would have happened if he crashed out like Contador in 2014.