Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[DNP-Old]

Even so, pogi is still underdog to MVP at MSR. Not many would disagree with this.

Van der Poel will be a mere afterthought once we reach the bottom of Cipressa. Gontchenkov will perish.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Pogi will launch at cipressa and solo to a victory with 2 minutes, whilst only being at 85% of his giro level. Thanks to the magic of structure training..

 

[Ripper]

Pogi will launch at cipressa and solo to a victory with 2 minutes, whilst only being at 85% of his giro level. Thanks to the magic of structure training..

And don't forget zone 2!

 

[Poursuivant]

Even so, pogi is still underdog to MVP at MSR. Not many would disagree with this.

Pedersen’s turn this year

 

[Froome]

Pogi will launch at cipressa and solo to a victory with 2 minutes, whilst only being at 85% of his giro level. Thanks to the magic of structure training..

I think Vingegaard will retire next week after reading mou statements 😂

 

[Didinho]

The special one is always right.

Or Pogi had a strong tailwind on the Madonna.

 

[mou]

you have no idea how badly Pogi was trained under Inigo, in winter 5 days zone 2 and 2 days free, when the season comes Pogi either races or has recovery and sometimes zone 2 and that's it, and sometimes he overwrites something from training peaks, all the innovations that Visma uses (core for heat training, glucose monitoring) Pog didn't use anything, he only measured his lactate during altitude training and that's it, 15 min intervals and bye, this is how Pog has dominated so far except for Tour is it borders on a miracle of the world, I have excellent contact with one of the closest Pog people for this season and I was finally able to see what was done in the past with that bald fraud and what with Javier Sola and I can tell you that he is a top coach and everything is changed, in the approach, intervals, heat training, TT position, absolutely everything is top and that's why I gave you the info before Bianche that Pog will kill everybody and what happened? What happened is that the greatest talent in the history of cycling realized that he finally got a coach which he deserves and which took him to 2 levels higher this winter

 

[mou]

You are delusional. Because of both of those statements. I expect Pogacar to win MSR by a minute with the stuff you are saying.

San Remo is not relevant to the form of Pog, Catalonia and everything after that is

 

[Didinho]

21 July on the Champs-Elysées

 

[mike8711]

San Remo is not relevant to the form of Pog, Catalonia and everything after that is

Do you think Pogacar will win Milan-San Remo?

 

[mou]

Do you think Pogacar will win Milan-San Remo?

No, because of the team for Remo, if they asked me to put together a team, Pog would win Remo, there is no one who can destroy Cipressa like Polanc and Formolo 2022, Mcnulty instead of Covi, Del Toro instead of Ullissi, and so the peloton arrives with a maximum of 25-30 people at Poggio and Wellens full gas and Pog attack but none of that with this composition

 

[tobydawq]

No, because of the team for Remo, if they asked me to put together a team, Pog would win Remo, there is no one who can destroy Cipressa like Polanc and Formolo 2022, Mcnulty instead of Covi, Del Toro instead of Ullissi, and so the peloton arrives with a maximum of 25-30 people at Poggio and Wellens full gas and Pog attack but none of that with this composition

Enough to prevent Van der Poel from following? I doubt it's steep enough.

(Unless of course San Millán changed to Alpecin in which case Van der Poel should be happy with a top 20).

 

[mou]

Enough to prevent Van der Poel from following? I doubt it's steep enough.

(Unless of course San Millán changed to Alpecin in which case Van der Poel should be happy with a top 20).

while the others compete in B category races, Pog simulates an ultra-hard pace behind a scooter on the hills around Monaco, one info: Fontan-St.Dalmas 7.47km 3.5% KOM exactly 12 min after 4 hours behind the scooter, so now you calculate w/kg and w , a little help until then KOM held Formolo 14:07min 🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[tobydawq]

while the others compete in B category races, Pog simulates an ultra-hard pace behind a scooter on the hills around Monaco, one info: Fontan-St.Dalmas 7.47km 3.5% KOM exactly 12 min after 4 hours behind the scooter, so now you calculate w/kg and w , a little help until then KOM held Formolo 14:07min 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Van der Poel has not been competing in any races, though. Maybe he did it in 11:59, you don't know.

 

[senna6541]

MSR is a hard race to predict, but if MVDP shows up ready, Pogi has very little shot. He plays right into MVDP's hands when he drives the pace like he did last year, only to be literally pushed aside and dropped like a bad habit by MVDP. He just can't match Van der Poel's acceleration and pure power. Pogi was smart to get RVV last year, because now that MVDP has been 100% healthy for an extended period of time he'd be too much to handle for Pogi at the race too. And what MVDP did to Pogi and the others at the WC's was just ugly. All that said, Pogi is definitely the best road bike racer in the world given his versatility, with MVDP being the best all-around bike racer.

 

[Berniece]

San Remo is not relevant to the form of Pog, Catalonia and everything after that is

That’s bs, if he’s as good as you are saying he should just fly away on cipressa with no one able to follow him. Just destroy everything and everyone. You were the one saying that his performance at De Ronde last year is now his base level, in that case he can easily ride away.

 

[tobydawq]

21 July on the Champs-Elysées

Wouldn't it be more prudent for him to be in Nice?

 

[tobydawq]

That’s bs, if he’s as good as you are saying he should just fly away on cipressa with no one able to follow him. Just destroy everything and everyone. You were the one saying that his performance at De Ronde last year is now his base level, in that case he can easily ride away.

Without having had any chance of softening the rivals?

No one can go on the Cipressa.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Screw what I said before, Pog doesn’t need to fuse with Roglic, he’s just going to go super saiyan blue kaioken x20 and leave everyone in the dust at the Giro and Tour. In 81 years they’ll make a movie, Pogenheimer, commemorating this accomplishment.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

And don't forget zone 2!

Yup, Teddy's whole solo ride from Cipressa on will be in zone 2. A few hundred meters before the line he'll get off his bike and walk to the finish lifting his bike and posing for pictures. After the race Rogla will decide for a last-minute participation in ski-jumping WC in Planica while Skeletor will announce a highly anticipated comeback to the fishing industry!

 

[Berniece]

Without having had any chance of softening the rivals?

No one can go on the Cipressa.

He should based on the numbers Pogacar is supposedly able to push. He beat MVDP at De Ronde. And that’s his base level now? Please, I call bs.

 

[tobydawq]

He should based on the numbers Pogacar is supposedly able to push. He beat MVDP at De Ronde. And that’s his base level now? Please, I call bs.

That's not the same thing at all.

But I take it you didn't watch Strade?

 

[Berniece]

That's not the same thing at all.

But I take it you didn't watch Strade?

What do you mean by it’s not the same thing at all?

And I did watch Strade, but none of the big 6 were there so the race is different.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Yup, Teddy's whole solo ride from Cipressa on will be in zone 2. A few hundred meters before the line he'll get off his bike and walk to the finish lifting his bike and posing for pictures. After the race Rogla will decide for a last-minute participation in ski-jumping WC in Planica while Skeletor will announce a highly anticipated comeback to the fishing industry!

Haven't you listened to Mou? Zone 2 is now gone, it's dead. Long live the nuclear zone!

 

[tobydawq]

What do you mean by it’s not the same thing at all?

And I did watch Strade, but none of the big 6 were there so the race is different.

Attacking from Cipressa from a whole bunch which can organise itself on the following ten kilometer stretch is not the same as attacking on Oude Kwaremont where most riders are already on the limit.