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Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Its a none subject for everyone else vingegaard is not even close to pogacar we dont even bother

I'm not sure I understand.

Vingegaard put 7 minutes into Pog last summer, i.e. obviously Pog's entire preparation (physically, mentally & tactically) for the TdF is now based on overcoming the current TdF defending champ.

If we're talking about riders aiming to win the Tour (Pog or anyone else, like Rog or Evenepoel as well), then Vingegaard is evidently part of the conversation. How could he not be? He's been smashing the race for two years in a row.

And his crash yesterday likely changed everything.
 
I'm not sure I understand.

Vingegaard put 7 minutes into Pog last summer, i.e. obviously Pog's entire preparation (physically, mentally & tactically) for the TdF is now based on overcoming the current TdF defending champ.

If we're talking about riders aiming to win the Tour (Pog or anyone else, like Rog or Evenepoel as well), then Vingegaard is evidently part of the conversation. How could he not be? He's been smashing the race for two years in a row.

And his crash yesterday likely changed everything.
Mate, dont get me started with ur 7 minute fantasy. Even if i dont like to get someone injured you will see how a broken bone takes everything out of a cyclist when competing in the biggest race in the world everyday full gas and we will talk what a gap is like in nice.
 
Before getting too excited about the double pog needs to fully concentrate on winning giro first. That race is crash prone. Contador Froome roglic all hit the deck there. I just hope everyone goes to the tour in decent shape🤞
i remember a time where every single british rider had a curse on the giro. It certaintly is slippery, different kind of roads too there.
 
I'm feeling the urge to search for comments from a year ago when some Pogi fans were complaining how anyone dared to compare Vingegaard to Pogacar because clearly Pogacar had only lost the Tour because of the outlier stage to the Granon and somethink like that would never happen again. Perhaps the people from a year ago weren't quite as...let's call it outspoken, as some people are now. But it was strikingly similar.
 
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If Roglic is his main rival then it completely changes the dynamic of the Tour! Vs Vingegaard Pogi is the better sprinter and more explosive, but Vingegaard is better on the longer climbs. Roglic is on a par with Pogi in terms of sprinting but I suspect won't be able to stick with Pogi on the longer climbs. This will mean Pogi can safely race his preferred attacking style, whereas with Vingo you worry by doing that he is just making the race harder and favouring Vingo
 
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I'm feeling the urge to search for comments from a year ago when some Pogi fans were complaining how anyone dared to compare Vingegaard to Pogacar because clearly Pogacar had only lost the Tour because of the outlier stage to the Granon and somethink like that would never happen again. Perhaps the people from a year ago weren't quite as...let's call it outspoken, as some people are now. But it was strikingly similar.
Big difference between post hoc argumentation when a rider gives no indicator of not being in great shape other than losing and people expecting Vingegaard to not be able to be in great shape for the Tour cause he's heavily injured including injuries to the resporatory system.
 
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Big difference between post hoc argumentation when a rider gives no indicator of not being in great shape other than losing and people expecting Vingegaard to not be able to be in great shape for the Tour cause he's heavily injured including injuries to the resporatory system.
Oh I think Vingegaard's crash makes Pogacar winning the Tour way more likely. But I wrote my comment in reference to people who wrote that last year the only reason Pogacar didn't win was his LBL crash and that without it he would have smoked Vingegaard.
 
He's training with his girlfriend

"The best cyclist in the world, Tadej Pogačar, training in Güéjar Sierra and Sierra Nevada. It shows that he knows.Tadej, we wish you all the luck in the Giro and the Tour and we hope you are in La Vuelta."

View: https://twitter.com/guejarsierra_/status/1776250090392347074
The best cyclist in the world is officially Vingegaard, undeservedly though...
The best was Van Der Poel.
Tadej was the best way back in 2021.
 
He's training with his girlfriend

"The best cyclist in the world, Tadej Pogačar, training in Güéjar Sierra and Sierra Nevada. It shows that he knows.Tadej, we wish you all the luck in the Giro and the Tour and we hope you are in La Vuelta."

View: https://twitter.com/guejarsierra_/status/1776250090392347074
Nice post, it looked like a blast. After that Strade showcase which was another record all time, blew everyones mind its just business as usual for this once in a lifetime guy.

Inc monument nr.6 surely on the way.
 
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Big difference between post hoc argumentation when a rider gives no indicator of not being in great shape other than losing and people expecting Vingegaard to not be able to be in great shape for the Tour cause he's heavily injured including injuries to the resporatory system.
Because it makes sense to declare "I may not be in great shape" right before going into the biggest race of the season? That would be bad strategy and rivals would smell blood immediately and sure did on one of the very first hard climbs in the race.... he also had personal problems at this stage behind the scenes going on affecting him.

Yourself going around calling him a "luck merchant" is such poor taste and blatantly trolling, right after Vingegaard has suffered these injuries.

You done this multiple times and you do it as a former mod... we can just shake our heads about it.

You are not better than anyone else and calling it "big difference" is laughable, especially coming from you.
 
Because it makes sense to declare "I may not be in great shape" right before going into the biggest race of the season? That would be bad strategy and rivals would smell blood immediately and sure did on one of the very first hard climbs in the race.... he also had personal problems at this stage behind the scenes going on affecting him.

Yourself going around calling him a "luck merchant" is such poor taste and blatantly trolling, right after Vingegaard has suffered these injuries.

You done this multiple times and you do it as a former mod... we can just shake our heads about it.

You are not better than anyone else and calling it "big difference" is laughable, especially coming from you.
Pogacar even said several times during the tour he rode with pain, rest day and multiple other times aswell. Its poor taste indeed nothing else. But if you for some reason dont like his dominance i guess you take what you can and go with it.
 
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I however agree hes a luck merchant.

His genes are not really fair towards anyone else and why hes so ridiculous much better than anyone else he even manage to go toe to toe with Vdp in his domain and hes arguably the best flandern rider of all time says it all.

He definetely is a luck merchant in that department, genes i see so many riders mention it in interview to the point if hes at the start the result is inevitable kinda feeling, thats not normal.