Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[CyclistAbi]

Aru will compete on Tour de l'Ain, too bad Pogačar won't be there.

P.S. At least we will get some indication of Aru form.

 

[Bonimenier]

Aru will compete on Tour de l'Ain, too bad Pogačar won't be there.

P.S. At least we will get some indication of Aru form.

Burgos already showed us some indication of his form. He wasn't too spectacular over there.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He's riding Mont Ventoux Dénivelé as we speak (Aru).

 

[CyclistAbi]

But on Tour de l'Ain a lot of Tour favorites will stack against each other. Unfortunately, due to not having time, i won't be able to watch the first stage. Over the weekend i will enjoy the rest. Too bad Pogačar won't be there.

 

[perico]

Aru looks like he’s starting to show signs of finding his form again. I think it would be good for both riders as it would take some of the pressure off Pogacar going into the TdF.

 

[Lequack]

He actually finished 12th today, just ahead of Van Der Poel. I think that is a great result for Milan San Remo.

 

[bob.a.feet]

He actually finished 12th today, just ahead of Van Der Poel. I think that is a great result for Milan San Remo.

Also, he finished 18th at the brutal WC last year. For a light climber, only 21, this kid has tremendous endurance.

 

[johnymax]

Is he riding Dauphine or Lombardia next, does anybody know? For the Tour it'd be best to do Dauphine but I want to see Pogi vs Remco in Lombardia.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Is he riding Dauphine or Lombardia next, does anybody know? For the Tour it'd be best to do Dauphine but I want to see Pogi vs Remco in Lombardia.

Pretty sure he's doing the Dauphiné.

Does anybody know what happened in the final yesterday? Of all the guys still in the peloton I was kind of expecting him to be able to follow Alaphilippe & van Aert. Legs running empty or bad positioning?

 

[Red Rick]

Pretty sure he's doing the Dauphiné.

Does anybody know what happened in the final yesterday? Of all the guys still in the peloton I was kind of expecting him to be able to follow Alaphilippe & van Aert. Legs running empty or bad positioning?

I simply didn't expect him to be there. He's not thát explosive.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I simply didn't expect him to be there. He's not thát explosive.

Huh? Sure he is. I assume his legs were a bit drained with the nervous finale.

 

[Red Rick]

Huh? Sure he is. I assume his legs were a bit drained with the nervous finale.

Pogacar is really good, and a really great prospects for the hilly classics work, but I don't have him down as matching Alaphilippe, who's probably the most explosive rider in the world on hills like the Poggio

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Pogacar is really good, and a really great prospects for the hilly classics work, but I don't have him down as matching Alaphilippe, who's probably the most explosive rider in the world on hills like the Poggio

He has beaten Valverde, Poels, Lutsenko, Yates... on uphill sprints, he should certainly have been able to folllow van Aert in theory.

 

[Red Rick]

He has beaten Valverde, Poels, Lutsenko, Yates... on uphill sprints, he should certainly have been able to folllow van Aert in theory.

If it were steeper I'd agree.

 

[WKA311]

He has beaten Valverde, Poels, Lutsenko, Yates... on uphill sprints, he should certainly have been able to folllow van Aert in theory.

I think your expecting too much from him then. Matching those riders on uphill finishes is another thing to matching explosive big guys accelerating on Poggio. There is a reason why it's almost always classics guys jumping away on pure power at Poggio. Pogacar doesn't have that raw power required for such an effort. Kwiatkowski couldn't even follow them and MVDP didn't even try. It's amazing for Pogi to finish 12th in this race among so many fast and more experienced guys.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Algarve wasn't that steep either, but it's possible that the pace was already too high in San Remo to give the extra punch.

 

[BlueRoads]

I think your expecting too much from him then. Matching those riders on uphill finishes is another thing to matching explosive big guys accelerating on Poggio. There is a reason why it's almost always classics guys jumping away on pure power at Poggio. Pogacar doesn't have that raw power required for such an effort. Kwiatkowski couldn't even follow them and MVDP didn't even try. It's amazing for Pogi to finish 12th in this race among so many fast and more experienced guys.

Big guys like Alaphilippe?

Maybe Pogacar could have done it in rain. He's certainly great in the heat as well, but I still think rain helps him.

 

[Red Rick]

Big guys like Alaphilippe?

Maybe Pogacar could have done it in rain. He's certainly great in the heat as well, but I still think rain helps him.

Did you see Alaphilippe at the 2017 Worlds? Guy crushed everyone on a 1.5km 6% hill no biggie. He's like a lighter Gilbert. That explosion is basically mutually exclusive with being a GT rider.

 

[BlueRoads]

Did you see Alaphilippe at the 2017 Worlds? Guy crushed everyone on a 1.5km 6% hill no biggie. He's like a lighter Gilbert. That explosion is basically mutually exclusive with being a GT rider.

It's just the words big - Alaphilippe in one sentence. He's so tiny. (And I don't mean that in a bad way.)

 

[johnymax]

Alaphilippe is in league of his own in this type of accelerations. Not sure how can anyone expect Pogačar to follow him on the Poggio. At least not yet. Pogi did great taking 12th place in his 1st participation in this "sprinter's classic".

 

[Red Rick]

Alaphilippe is in league of his own in this type of accelerations. Not sure how can anyone expect Pogačar to follow him on the Poggio. At least not yet. Pogi did great taking 12th place in his 1st participation in this "sprinter's classic".

He should never be able to. If anything he'd need to move before Alaphilippe.

If there's anyting about MSR that's slightly underwhelming it's the amount of room for maneuvring tactically after the Poggio. There's nothing for riders without any sprint.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Not impressed by Aru on Tour de l'Ain. If Pogačar will be able to keep the pace with the favorites on Critérium du Dauphiné, then likely Pogačar will be ranked above Aru, in the Tour team.

 

[hayneplane]

Not impressed by Aru on Tour de l'Ain. If Pogačar will be able to keep the pace with the favorites on Critérium du Dauphiné, then likely Pogačar will be ranked above Aru, in the Tour team.

Publicly they will probably stick with the line that Aru is the leader and gets the ‘1’ dossard but if they really believe that privately and don’t put full resources towards Pogacar then the management are idiots.

 

[CyclistAbi]

We'll see.

P.S. Best to wait for Critérium du Dauphiné to finish and to see on how Pogačar stacks against other favorites.

 

[topt]

Did you see Alaphilippe at the 2017 Worlds? Guy crushed everyone on a 1.5km 6% hill no biggie. He's like a lighter Gilbert. That explosion is basically mutually exclusive with being a GT rider.

There is a JV leader that would disagree with that