Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[CyclistAbi]

Yes according to HLN and Sporza: The program of Tadej Pogacar DOES NOT contain Tirreno-Adriatico. But instead, he would ride Volta Ciclista a Catalunya.

I find that little wired. Only have 2 races days before Catalunya. Plus MSM and Catalunya is only 1 day apart.

I see. Looks like TA was indeed removed from the article in Slovenian media. And there is a question mark there in regards to possible prep race for Giro. Catalunya is not yet listed. So i guess we got the basic idea, but for some more official and 100% accurate list, best to wait and see. If it even exists at this point.

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

Perhaps there is someone, somewhere, on this forum not fed up with me posting social media reels of Pogačar popping wheelies and holding up traffic. No? Tough luck, here's another.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1736672046904496366

View: https://twitter.com/RealStephens/status/1736672046904496366?t=HtIrVfHGXjj6l495cexTdA&s=19

 

[scribers]

To take July off might mean a giro/vuelta double? With a complete spring classics campaign?

 

[Ilmaestro99]

So he will not get any help in that race

Majka is one of the best in the world at mountain support and is certainly more useful than Almida or Ajuso. I doubt Vine can help much though, probably a lot of pressure on Grosschrartner to hit a really good level.

Also my sources seem to have got some info slightly wrong in my earlier post, apparently he does do LBL and it's the main spring goal with Strade and Milano Sanremo. Looks like a stage race, yet to be decided between Tirreno and Cataluna, will be included also

 

[tobydawq]

To take July off might mean a giro/vuelta double? With a complete spring classics campaign?

But that's not what he's going to do...

 

[AmRacer]

To take July off might mean a giro/vuelta double? With a complete spring classics campaign?

He will race Olympics, so July won't be a holiday.

 

[Netserk]

Vingegaard without Wout, Roglic and Van Hooydonck will not walk a Tour where he will face a team with Pogacar, Ayuso, Almeida and Yates.

Ayuso, Almeida and Yates will bother him as much as Adam did this year. He barely needs to fart to kill them.

 

[scribers]

But that's not what he's going to do...

Not this season. But he’s quoted above as considering it another year

 

[tobydawq]

Ayuso, Almeida and Yates will bother him as much as Adam did this year. He barely needs to fart to kill them.

I don't think so.

 

[proffate]

Pog will walk the Giro
and Vinge and JV will now walk the Tour

If Pog truly does take the Giro without much competition then is it really taking that much out of him for July?

 

[CyclistAbi]

2024-02-10	Figueira Champions Classic	1.Pro
2024-02-14	Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta	2.Pro
2024-03-02	Strade Bianche	1.UWT
2024-03-16	Milano-Sanremo	1.UWT
2024-03-18	Volta Ciclista a Catalunya	2.UWT
2024-04-21	Liège-Bastogne-Liège	1.UWT
2024-05-04	Giro d'Italia	2.UWT
2024-06-29	Tour de France	2.UWT
2024-09-13	Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec	1.UWT
2024-09-15	Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal	1.UWT
2024-10-12	Il Lombardia	1.UWT

According to the PCS this looks like it is then. Now lets see what other big names will announce. Then i guess we can judge on how easy or not some race could be. Considering the cyclists involved.

 

[bNator]

That's certainly true, but he also lost twice in a row against Vingegaard. And lost hard. I would think that with a perfect preparation they can go head-to-head, but the Giro isn't a perfect preparation.

I don’t think Pog’s focus spread should be interpreted as him not considering Vingegaard worthy of his full attention. But just because he respects Vingegaard it doesn’t mean he should focus on him entirely. Pog does his own thing (as does Vingegaard) which is going for everything and sometimes losing out.

 

[Netserk]

I don't think so.

Because you think one of them will be on another level than Yates this year?

Or is there a scenario you imagine where a third and fourth "captain" will have a very different impact than what Yates had as second captain this year?

I'll write off Almeida immediately to do anything that matters. Maybe Ayuso can go in breakaways or do a stupid attack, but I don't think he'll be any closer to Vingegaard than in the Vuelta.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Two years back supposedly nobody could beat Pogi at the Tour. Now supposedly Pogi or some other cyclist can't win the Tour any more. As supposedly nobody could beat Jonas.

It doesn't work like that guys.

 

[Aimar16]

Majka is one of the best in the world at mountain support and is certainly more useful than Almida or Ajuso. I doubt Vine can help much though, probably a lot of pressure on Grosschrartner to hit a really good level.

Also my sources seem to have got some info slightly wrong in my earlier post, apparently he does do LBL and it's the main spring goal with Strade and Milano Sanremo. Looks like a stage race, yet to be decided between Tirreno and Cataluna, will be included also

Against potential (weak) Giro opponents, Majka may be more useful than he was in the Tour.

I always watch this clip when I want to laugh as Wout destroyed Majka

 

[Berniece]

I don’t think Pog’s focus spread should be interpreted as him not considering Vingegaard worthy of his full attention. But just because he respects Vingegaard it doesn’t mean he should focus on him entirely. Pog does his own thing (as does Vingegaard) which is going for everything and sometimes losing out.

Yes, but the TDF is the biggest race in the world. He went for it the past 2 years, and lost. Not riding it with the proper preparation this year, tells me he probably assumes he won't even be able to win anyway.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Yes, but the TDF is the biggest race in the world. He went for it the past 2 years, and lost. Not riding it with the proper preparation this year, tells me he probably assumes he won't even be able to win anyway.

Well Remco said up front he can't win the Tour in 2024. But nobody really believed that.

 

[scribers]

Ayuso, Almeida and Yates will bother him as much as Adam did this year. He barely needs to fart to kill them.

No wonder so many jumbos scrambling to not ride with him 💨

 

[Berniece]

Well Remco said up front he can't win the Tour in 2024. But nobody really believed that.

I definitely believe that. I currently don’t see anyone beating Vingegaard if he reaches the level of last year and doesn’t run into issues. I do see Remco finish on the podium though.

 

[CyclistAbi]

I definitely believe that. I currently don’t see anyone beating Vingegaard if he reaches the level of last year and doesn’t run into issues. I do see Remco finish on the podium though.

Who do you believe Remco can beat, to get to podium? If you don't believe that to be Jonas.

 

[tobydawq]

Because you think one of them will be on another level than Yates this year?

Or is there a scenario you imagine where a third and fourth "captain" will have a very different impact than what Yates had as second captain this year?

I'll write off Almeida immediately to do anything that matters. Maybe Ayuso can go in breakaways or do a stupid attack, but I don't think he'll be any closer to Vingegaard than in the Vuelta.

Ayuso will be one year older than in the Vuelta and if he has a problem free season, I'm sure he will be much better.

But yeah, it might not be feasible to have four GC riders and use them tactically well.

 

[hayneplane]

2024-02-10	Figueira Champions Classic	1.Pro
2024-02-14	Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta	2.Pro
2024-03-02	Strade Bianche	1.UWT
2024-03-16	Milano-Sanremo	1.UWT
2024-03-18	Volta Ciclista a Catalunya	2.UWT
2024-04-21	Liège-Bastogne-Liège	1.UWT
2024-05-04	Giro d'Italia	2.UWT
2024-06-29	Tour de France	2.UWT
2024-09-13	Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec	1.UWT
2024-09-15	Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal	1.UWT
2024-10-12	Il Lombardia	1.UWT

According to the PCS this looks like it is then. Now lets see what other big names will announce. Then i guess we can judge on how easy or not some race could be. Considering the cyclists involved.

I know they previously announced it but I would be surprised now if they put him into Algarve.

Looks like they want him ultra fresh for MSR having seen how going deep in TA has hurt riders in the recent past.

 

[tobydawq]

I know they previously announced it but I would be surprised now if they put him into Algarve.

Looks like they want him ultra fresh for MSR having seen how going deep in TA has hurt riders in the recent past.

Hmm, Tirreno finishes two days earlier now, so would that really be that much of a concern?

 

[jono]

If the Tour is such a lost cause for Pogacar vs Vingegaard as many here seem to suggest, it only makes sense for him to go to Italy and bag another GT win first and soften the blow of the inevitable Danish skeletor triumph.

 

[HelloDolly]

Well Remco said up front he can't win the Tour in 2024. But nobody really believed that.

?? I truly and wholeheartedly beleive Remco cant win the 2024 Tour

If the Tour is such a lost cause for Pogacar vs Vingegaard as many here seem to suggest, it only makes sense for him to go to Italy and bag another GT win first and soften the blow of the inevitable Danish skeletor triumph.

The issue here is the Tour has been so enjoyable with Pog v Vinge over the last 2 years even if Jonas won. Pog is the only one imo that can take the Tpour to Vingegaard . If he is knackered from the Giro ..btw there are no easy Grand Tour wins...then the contest will not be as good
I guess our only hope is Roglic but cant see him taking on Vingegaard in the long high mountains... maybe Kuss will get yellow ? ha ha


Ayuso, Almedia and the rest including Remco are a step below...They maybe coming but they are not there yet

Its how I see it ...everyone riding for the podium in 2 GTs