Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Froome]

No he was pacing Kuss, because Vingegaard attacked, and when he noticed that Kuss dropped he came back after him.

He was talking about sierra de bejes, and Kuss was dropped on that stage, he finished some seconds behind roglic, he didn't waited for him.

In the next stage he attcked, and everyone dropped bar Vingegaard, who was hanging for dear life.

You can say that 17373784 millions times, it will still not be true.

One of this days you will say that vingegaard needed a oxygen mask after angliru because he was almost dead 😂


Do you know who was almost dead in the dauphine 2022 on plateau de solaison? Roglic. Vingegaard waited for him.

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

From Pogačar's Instagram: a nice little reel summing up 2023 and another one for 2024 expectations - the second one to "I'm So Excited" by The Pointer Sisters, which in my opinion could be the soundtrack of his cycling career.

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[Gigs_98]

So I have a question I'm starting to think this might be the right thread for. Who do you guys think was better. Nibali or Valverde?

 

[Froome]

So I have a question I'm starting to think this might be the right thread for. Who do you guys think was better. Nibali or Valverde?

I think Nibali was better because he won more important races. He won the three Grand Tours and he won two monuments, Il lombardia 2x and Milan San Remo.

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

So, I might have missed it, but is T-A definitely out and Catalunya in?

 

[scribers]

So I have a question I'm starting to think this might be the right thread for. Who do you guys think was better. Nibali or Valverde?

Valverde

 

[Sciatic]

Gigs, I'm not gonna tell you you need to go outside more, but you should definitely spend 5 minutes away from the CN forum on occasion

Nah, —we only need Gigs to be away on trips during the monuments, a few other classics, and key GT stages

 

[Ilmaestro99]

So I have a question I'm starting to think this might be the right thread for. Who do you guys think was better. Nibali or Valverde?

Objectively speaking, if Nibali wasn't crashed by an Ineos helper on alpes dhuez, he would win Sanremo, tour de France, World championship and Lombardia in the same season. Please don't compare him to a guy who won a few uphill sprints in Belgium and Murcia.

 

[EllaChimp]

So,I might have missed it, but is T-A definitely out and Catalunya in?

Yes, Pogi's doing Catalunya and not doing Tirreno, from all I've heard. PCS still have him listed as doing both, for some reason. I personally wish he was doing Tirreno purely for selfish reasons (because I'm going to a couple of it's stages, lol). He has a packed schedule, for sure!

Glad someone has posted about Pogi in the Pogi thread again. The last few pages have just been a load of waffle about everyone except him!!

 

[Blanco]

I think Nibali was better because he won more important races. He won the three Grand Tours and he won two monuments, Il lombardia 2x and Milan San Remo.

You used the right word this time - you think. But you think wrong.
Valverde is of course better, because he won:
more stage races (25-14)
more GT stages (17-13)
more one day races (32-13)
more World Tour races (61-24)
and simply lot more races (133-52)

 

[Froome]

You used the right word this time - you think. But you think wrong.
Valverde is of course better, because he won:
more stage races (25-14)
more GT stages (17-13)
more one day races (32-13)
more World Tour races (61-24)
and simply lot more races (133-52)

Opinions.

For me Nibali was better because he won the most important races.

 

[tobydawq]

So I have a question I'm starting to think this might be the right thread for. Who do you guys think was better. Nibali or Valverde?

Valverde

 

[tobydawq]

From Pogačar's Instagram: a nice little reel summing up 2023 and another one for 2024 expectations - the second one to "I'm So Excited" by The Pointer Sisters, which in my opinion could be the soundtrack of his cycling career.

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What a showman.

 

[tobydawq]

Objectively speaking, if Nibali wasn't crashed by an Ineos helper on alpes dhuez, he would win Sanremo, tour de France, World championship and Lombardia in the same season. Please don't compare him to a guy who won a few uphill sprints in Belgium and Murcia.

If Valverde didn't have opening day crashes in 2006 and 2017, he wins two Tours.

 

[tobydawq]

Opinions.

For me Nibali was better because he won the most important races.

For me Valverde was better because he was better. And not lucky like Nibali.

Let's get 2024 rolling

 

[Salvarani]

For me Valverde was better because he was better. And not lucky like Nibali.

Let's get 2024 rolling

You for sure have a had few. We will let you enjoy the night and discuss this tomorrow.

 

[Skijumper Roglic fan]

Vingegaard?

Yeah, but it‘s common practice that these big rivals don’t train together… That’s how I meant it.

Once there was speculation that Jan Ullrich would join US Postal, after it was clear that Bianchi would be gone after 2003. So there was speculation Ullrich would become teammate of Lance for 2004. Many would have felt betrayed of this big duel between these two, however - Ulle then joined T-Mobile, for a second time.

Well, as an exception, one could say, MvdP/WVA/Pidcock use to train together, every week or so, in winter: at every CX race at which they face each other…

In the past, there was a Monaco based training group consisting of Gilbert, Matthews and Hushovd, but I think that‘s rather an exception…

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

Yes, Pogi's doing Catalunya and not doing Tirreno, from all I've heard. PCS still have him listed as doing both, for some reason. I personally wish he was doing Tirreno purely for selfish reasons (because I'm going to a couple of it's stages, lol). He has a packed schedule, for sure!

Glad someone has posted about Pogi in the Pogi thread again. The last few pages have just been a load of waffle about everyone except him!!

Thank you so much - I was indeed confused looking at PCS!

It's a pity you won't be able to see him race in T-A this year, but I hope you'll still have a wonderful time there.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

So I have a question I'm starting to think this might be the right thread for. Who do you guys think was better. Nibali or Valverde?

Who the best rider is depends on what kind of style you prefer. To me, Nibali was a less exciting version of Samuel Sánchez while Valverde was a less exciting version of Roglič.

 

[Froome]

Who the best rider is depends on what kind of style you prefer. To me, Nibali was a less exciting version of Samuel Sánchez while Valverde was a less exciting version of Roglič.

In your(the question is for everybody) opinion who has a better career until now? Valverde or roglic? Even if Valverde already retired.

Who has the better final mountain sprint? Valverde or roglic?

 

[Blanco]

In your(the question is for everybody) opinion who has a better career until now? Valverde or roglic? Even if Valverde already retired.

Who has the better final mountain sprint? Valverde or roglic?

2x Valverde

 

[EllaChimp]

Thank you so much - I was indeed confused looking at PCS!

It's a pity you won't be able to see him race in T-A this year, but I hope you'll still have a wonderful time there.

Oh yes, I can't wait to go to the stages. Looking forward to seeing Pippo and MVDP! I'm actually going to 5 different races over a 2-week period in March, which is going to be crazy but fun. Pogi will be at some of the other races so I'll still get to see him again. I was just hoping to see him do the ITT at T-A though but never mind!

I got some good pics of Pogs that I took in November that I'd happily share but can't figure out how to post them here. I can't find a suitable site to upload them to, to copy the URL's. The ones I tried didn't work. Shame we can't just upload pics to here directly, it's silly.

 

[Miss Violet Smith]

Oh yes, I can't wait to go to the stages. Looking forward to seeing Pippo and MVDP! I'm actually going to 5 different races over a 2-week period in March, which is going to be crazy but fun. Pogi will be at some of the other races so I'll still get to see him again. I was just hoping to see him do the ITT at T-A though but never mind!

That sounds awesome! May I ask which other races you're going to?

I got some good pics of Pogs that I took in November that I'd happily share but can't figure out how to post them here. I can't find a suitable site to upload them to, to copy the URL's. The ones I tried didn't work. Shame we can't just upload pics to here directly, it's silly.

I don't upload a lot of pictures, but I think this works? And I think you can also add the picture format at the end of the URL.

[IMG]https://urlforthepicture[/IMG]

 

[EllaChimp]

That sounds awesome! May I ask which other races you're going to?

I'm going to Strade Bianche, then the first two stages of Tirreno-Adriatico, then the last two stages of Paris-Nice, then the start of Milano-Torino and the start of Milano-Sanremo (last year I went to the end of it). I'll have some days in between to relax in Nice and Monaco. My friend and I do everything on the cheapest budget possible. It's going to be crazy going to so many races this time but hopefully a lot of fun. We went to the end of Paris-Nice last year and a couple of midway stages of the Giro D'Italia and it was so great. It's amazing to see all our favourite cyclists.

 

[gregrowlerson]

In your(the question is for everybody) opinion who has a better career until now? Valverde or roglic? Even if Valverde already retired.

Who has the better final mountain sprint? Valverde or roglic?

Roglic at his peak in stage races.
Valverde at his peak in one day races.