Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Yes. And he is training like a monster. Let's see if our prediction of a 55km attack will happen.

I hope so, pure carnage and total destruction.

Me too. He will give us a show if he doesn't crash.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If you're referring to Carrefour, they weren't racing that segment all-out until Wout attacked the Degenkolb crash.

Still impressive, of course, along with some of the other segments.

Yes, but we also don't know how Pogacar went in Carrefour. Did he go all out? Pogacar already told if he published all his rides, most strava records would be beaten. Of course he is hiding his true shape, this is why I think his ride in Carrefour is very telling. 2 seconds slower than MVP and he wasn't probably going all out.

 

[JoãoRamos]

Me too. He will give us a show if he doesn't crash.

No, God saves us from this.

But it will be amazing when he wins his 2nd RVV.

Multiple RVV winner being a mutiple TdF winner.

Stuff for legends.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, I agree, it's impressive, considering all the segments he rode.

Also, Pog needs a sunny day to improve his chances.

I don't buy the theory that his chances go down with a wet race. But this is just a feeling.

 

[JoãoRamos]

I don't buy that theory that his chances go down with a wet race. But this is just a feeling.

Yes, in some way I know what you are saying and I have to agree.

If I analyze better, I am thinking more about avoiding a crash that will ruin his season than the P-R itself.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, in some way I know what you are saying and I have to agree.

If I analyze better, I am thinking more about avoiding a crash that will ruin his season than the P-R itself.

MVP is overrated in his technique. For me he is worldclass but he is not a god. He makes differences with his power, what is really outstanding about him, is his physical ability in 1-2' minutes all out efforts during 5/6 hours. Road racing is not cyclocross! Technique is less relevant.

 

[JoãoRamos]

MVP is overrated in his technique. For me he is worldclass but he is not a god. He makes differences with his power, what is really outstanding about him, is his physical ability in 1-2' minutes all out efforts during 5/6 hours. Road racing is not cyclocross! Technique is less relevant.

I agree. Pog can handle him even with bad weather.

Well, now let's wait and hope for the best.

He is training like a mad man. He really wants it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Wet cobbles (on climbs) mean roads more slippery and increase the need of pushing more watts to maintain a good speed. Of course on flat roads, technique plays a important role but not when you go uphill. Uphill, you need more w/kg to maintain a similar speed compared to your speed in dry cobbles.
Before anyone says I'm dellusional that I never rode on cobbles, just invite those guys to visit "Trás os Montes" (region full of hills specially due to "Serra do Marão") in Portugal, specially old small villages with cobbles even worse than PR.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Damn Segaert is clearly flying might have to get some money on, Roubaix suits him too even if he was crap last year.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Tadej Pogačar sets course records on Paris-Roubaix sectors during reconnaissance

World champion earns Strava KOM on Mons en Pévèle, Auchy les Orchies pavé sectors

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[scribers]

Oh heck. I didn’t even know he had a website. Has a merch store and everything. I don’t see any wild wants on there. Lots of potential though

 

[scribers]

Mou promises he peaked at recent pogi power profiles that surprised even himself. Assures destruction is coming

 

[YavorD]

Mou promises he peaked at recent pogi power profiles that surprised even himself. Assures destruction is coming

When was the last time he assured something different?

 

[jono]

Pretty ripping tailwind on most of his cobbled travels today.

Reiner H. is probably going to flag this ride because the N510 crown he lost to an obviously motorpacing Tadej (55km/h into a 30k headwind?)

 

[Gratemans]

MVP is overrated in his technique. For me he is worldclass but he is not a god. He makes differences with his power, what is really outstanding about him, is his physical ability in 1-2' minutes all out efforts during 5/6 hours. Road racing is not cyclocross! Technique is less relevant.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1HZWR2eUgQ

 

[JoãoRamos]

Mou promises he peaked at recent pogi power profiles that surprised even himself. Assures destruction is coming

In Master Mou we trust

 

[SHAD0W93]

Pogacar had a worse mental break after Combloux. This doesn't mean he is/was fragile. I'm a cycling fan above all and I want a peak Vingegaard to have entertainment in the Tour so of course I will cheer for Vingegaard (despite being a Pogacar fan) and show him respect. He is the only rider who made Pogacar look more human.

The two beatdowns they received were not similar.

Pogacar had an actual hard mountain stage after the beatdown by Vingegaard in the TT on top of a crash during the stage. Then factor in the year before when he got destroyed in the Tour. Vingegaard got a rest day, flat stage, a chill day for the peloton till the end, and then another chill day before the next big mountain stage. Vingegaard had time to come to terms that he wasn’t winning or good enough in 2024, Pogacar did not in 2023.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The two beatdowns they received were not similar.

Pogacar had an actual hard mountain stage after the beatdown by Vingegaard in the TT on top of a crash during the stage. Then factor in the year before when he got destroyed in the Tour. Vingegaard got a rest day, flat stage, a chill day for the peloton till the end, and then another chill day before the next big mountain stage. Vingegaard had time to come to terms that he wasn’t winning or good enough in 2024, Pogacar did not in 2023.

You are right but for me Combloux shocked more Pogacar than PdB shocked Vingegaard. I remember Pogacar was the favourite to win the Tour after the second rest day (according with us here in CN) so no one expected what would happen after Combloux. On the other hand, Vingegaard wasn't really threatning Pogacar before PdB. We had that enormous comeback from Vingegaard in stage 11 but Pogacar shut down any doubts about who would win the Tour with a fantastic solo in Pla D'Adet (not really a hard climb).
So the mental blow in Pogacar was bigger because he really thought he would win the Tour before Combloux. I don't think Vingegaard's belief after Pla D'Adet was that strong.

 

[Peyroteo94]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1HZWR2eUgQ

What is your point exactly?

 

[Berniece]

What is your point exactly?

That MVDP is extremely skilful on the bike in a way Pogacar can only dream of

 

[Offline]

What’s the wind / weather forecasts for Sunday?

 

[snipeheem]

That MVDP is extremely skilful on the bike in a way Pogacar can only dream of

And who cares about that?

 

[Berniece]

And who cares about that?

Anyone that rides Roubaix? Makes sure you can go faster in the corners and over the cobbles so you don't have to put as much energy in?

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Damn Segaert is clearly flying might have to get some money on, Roubaix suits him too even if he was crap last year.

Remember not to gamble too much of your money on inside knowledge like that. Cycling Highlights learned it the hard way.

 

[scribers]

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You are right but for me Combloux shocked more Pogacar than PdB shocked Vingegaard. I remember Pogacar was the favourite to win the Tour after the second rest day (according with us here in CN) so no one expected what would happen after Combloux. On the other hand, Vingegaard wasn't really threatning Pogacar before PdB. We had that enormous comeback from Vingegaard in stage 11 but Pogacar shut down any doubts about who would win the Tour with a fantastic solo in Pla D'Adet (not really a hard climb).
So the mental blow in Pogacar was bigger because he really thought he would win the Tour before Combloux. I don't think Vingegaard's belief after Pla D'Adet was that strong.

man I don’t remember any details like this. I don’t doubt they happened. Just no memory for it