Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Cycling111]

He never does altitude training for the classics. He doesn't want to be fatigued after classics (mental fatigue). His schedule is heavy so he needs time to be at home.

Last year he didn't do it for the Giro?

It's impressive how strong he's been in hill classic like Liège, without altitude.
Everyone does altitude before Liège.

 

[Salvarani]

A 5th alternative could be MSR, Ronde, PR, Tour, Vuelta, WC and Lombardia.

Maybe he should have skipped the Ardennes this season, as it is also the one he is the least prepared for.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Last year he didn't do it for the Giro?

It's impressive how strong he's been in hill classic like Liège, without altitude.
Everyone does altitude before Liège.

He does for GTs, not for classics. And his altitude training was different from what he did in Isola or normally does in May for the Tour.

 

[Froome]

Everyone does altitude before Liège.

Not really.

Besides that, not every rider benefits from altitude.

 

[Netserk]

No, he wouldn't. It was planned but his wife got pregnant.

That didn't change his plans, he has been quite clear about that.

Just like the previous child.

 

[scribers]

A 5th alternative could be MSR, Ronde, PR, Tour, Vuelta, WC and Lombardia.

Maybe he should have skipped the Ardennes this season, as it is also the one he is the least prepared for.

LBL is such a winnable monument. Can’t see him skipping that under any scenario.

 

[Salvarani]

LBL is such a winnable monument. Can’t see him skipping that under any scenario.

It would have been an alternative to skip to fit in other targets later.... but since he going for it all this spring, he has to skip something later or risk being worse off from it.

 

[scribers]

This uae tour is a problem in race day terms. Strade was hard. MSR mostly hard. RVV and P-R were absolutely nails. Esp P-R. He gave up E3 and GW. Would prefer to see him skip AG and FW or at least hope we’ll never hear of it again.

Some season he’ll have to try to bake in E3 and possibly oomloops and GW.

It seems to really boil down to how hard the tour is. All roads run through it.

God wiling, late career objectives would include missing 1 week tours, and anything else he hasn’t conquered.

 

[Salvarani]

This uae tour is a problem in race day terms. Strade was hard. MSR mostly hard. RVV and P-R were absolutely nails. Esp P-R. He gave up E3 and GW. Would prefer to see him skip AG and FW or at least hope we’ll never hear of it again.

Some season he’ll have to try to bake in E3 and possibly oomloops and GW.

It seems to really boil down to how hard the tour is. All roads run through it.

God wiling, late career objectives would include missing 1 week tours, and anything else he hasn’t conquered.

I think he just should never try go for it all in one season.

He either has to sacrifice cobbles, a second GT or Ardennes in my opinion. I think even this season Ardennes could be a stretch, after Ronde + PR combo. Hope I am wrong.

It is commendable and amazing to try to target everything... but it is also a high risk of coming close and ending up with little. It only plays into the hands of others.

He shouldnt try go for everything in one year and in all my suggestions for a potential schedule, there is some sacrifice that he would have to do. Thats just because I believe it is the most sensible thing to do. Both to maximize his own chances in all the races he partakes in and so that he can also be able to do it for many more years. Adding as many wins as he possibly can.

 

[BubbaChuck]

He looked little tired on recon,lol.well see.

 

[hayneplane]

This uae tour is a problem in race day terms. Strade was hard. MSR mostly hard. RVV and P-R were absolutely nails. Esp P-R. He gave up E3 and GW. Would prefer to see him skip AG and FW or at least hope we’ll never hear of it again.

Some season he’ll have to try to bake in E3 and possibly oomloops and GW.

It seems to really boil down to how hard the tour is. All roads run through it.

God wiling, late career objectives would include missing 1 week tours, and anything else he hasn’t conquered.

If he completes the Ardennes treble this year to nail the unfinished business from 2023 I think he won’t go back to AGR and FW more than a couple of times in his career which will help his schedule management.

 

[Peyroteo94]

That didn't change his plans, he has been quite clear about that.

Just like the previous child.

When did his second child born?

 

[Peyroteo94]

This uae tour is a problem in race day terms. Strade was hard. MSR mostly hard. RVV and P-R were absolutely nails. Esp P-R. He gave up E3 and GW. Would prefer to see him skip AG and FW or at least hope we’ll never hear of it again.

Some season he’ll have to try to bake in E3 and possibly oomloops and GW.

It seems to really boil down to how hard the tour is. All roads run through it.

God wiling, late career objectives would include missing 1 week tours, and anything else he hasn’t conquered.

Pais Vasco is the only one week stage race difficult for him due to his schedule.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He looked little tired on recon,lol.well see.

How can you see if he was tired or not?

 

[CatchyH]

Does he have to race the Dauphine? Tour of Slovenia is an option. It's an easier race and only 5 stages. He could then add the national championships.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Does he have to race the Dauphine? Tour of Slovenia is an option. It's an easier race and only 5 stages. He could then add the national championships.

Nah, I hope he never goes back to Slovenia. A waste of time. Dauphiné will be good to test his shape against Vingegaard.

 

[scribers]

Does he have to race the Dauphine? Tour of Slovenia is an option. It's an easier race and only 5 stages. He could then add the national championships.

Depends on his reaction to altitude. Not all riders respond the same

 

[scribers]

Pais Vasco is the only one week stage race difficult for him due to his schedule.

I think romandie not so fitting. Suisse too.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think romandie not so fitting. Suisse too.

Suisse is a prep race for the Tour. Easy to win for him.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Remco is full of confidence. Good to see. This is what a champion does, embrace pressure as a race favorite.

Inspired by hunting the crown – Can Remco Evenepoel deny Tadej Pogačar a historic Ardennes triple in Olympic vs world champion face-off?

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www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Cycling111]

It seems Pogacar doesn't care about one-week races.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It seems Pogacar doesn't care about one-week races.

Yup. No one cares about one week stage races. They are good to prepare the Tour or the Giro.

 

[scribers]

Suisse is a prep race for the Tour. Easy to win for him.

most contenders seem to prefer the Dauphne over Suisse. Something about the timing.

 

[Sciatic]

Not really.

Besides that, not every rider benefits from altitude.

If you’re talking about the week following a proper (over 2200 meters) altitude camp, it would be highly unusual to find riders who don’t get ANY benefits from altitude. Unless there’s something off with their erythropoiesis functioning, the hypoxia will increase HCT which is always going to give at least some boost. Perhaps the exception would be if a rider has a very high baseline HCT (like 49%) then they couldn’t race until HCT dropped back below 50?

 

[Peyroteo94]

most contenders seem to prefer the Dauphne over Suisse. Something about the timing.

Of course. Dauphiné is better but Suisse is not that bad.