- Jul 8, 2017
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- Apr 13, 2025
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- Mar 20, 2022
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Vingegaard and Pogacar are close to peak shape already. A shame we don't have a serious MTF to see a 7 w/kg performance
- Apr 10, 2019
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I hope Vingegaard sandbags/rides for Son Jorge for the memes.
- Jul 7, 2013
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Teddy will try to use Visma-LAB guys like his own doms then (like on PdB) unless Vingo is too strong.
- Apr 30, 2011
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I think the altitude camp was from May 10 to May 28. He has trained around his (secondary) house in Annecy since then.
- Mar 20, 2022
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He looks very thin. Probably 2 kg lighter than his spring body.
View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKhSkBjqly6/?igsh=MTh1OWYxa2cxa2F5bQ==
View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKhSkBjqly6/?igsh=MTh1OWYxa2cxa2F5bQ==
- Apr 13, 2025
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In the images from the Monaco GP, he looked extremely thin.
I think he's thinner than last year. Or maybe it's the contrast to his physique in the Classics.
Last year, since he didn't do Flanders, maybe he was thinner from the start.
But to me, he looks thinner than ever.
- Sep 14, 2019
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I think this is exactly why it will be a bloodbath. There will be limited tactical moves by the teams. It will be a raw battle
- Jul 7, 2013
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Yes, last year he was thinner in the spring with full focus on stage racing. This year probably around 67 kg during cobbled races.
- Mar 20, 2022
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Remco lighter, Vingegaard feeling better than ever, Pogacar thinner than ever. The blockbuster saga '' Clash of the Titans'' is approaching.
Episode 1: This Sunday at your local provider. Don't forget popcorn and tissues to wipe your tears.
Episode 1: This Sunday at your local provider. Don't forget popcorn and tissues to wipe your tears.
- Mar 20, 2022
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Remco will be a spectator like us. We on TV, him on the road 300m behind.
- Jul 7, 2013
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- Apr 13, 2025
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- Feb 23, 2025
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- Mar 20, 2022
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- Apr 13, 2025
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- Mar 20, 2022
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- Apr 13, 2025
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Cookster15
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- May 14, 2011
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I won't be reading much into what happens. A reminder that this happened in 2023 and Pogi was still destroyed in July:-
Paris - Nice 2023 Stage 4 results
Paris - Nice 2023 Stage 4 from Saint-Amand-Montrond to La Loge des Gardes was won by Tadej PogaÄar before David Gaudu and Gino Mäder. Tadej PogaÄar was leading the general classification.
www.procyclingstats.com
Sure this was early March and Pogi broke his wrist at LBL in April but..
The riders and teams can say what they want but the Dauphiné is in realty just a prep race. If you lose in July nobody will care if you won a 1 week stage race in June. Its been this way since Armstrong's time.
- Mar 20, 2022
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He didn't have the best preparation. In fact I still think 2023 showed Pogacar has the edge against Vingegaard from what I saw in the first 2 weeks. Something I didn't see in 2022, Vingegaard never looked in real trouble in following Pogacar.I won't be reading much into what happens. A reminder that this happened in 2023 and Pogi was still destroyed in July:-
Paris - Nice 2023 Stage 4 results
Paris - Nice 2023 Stage 4 from Saint-Amand-Montrond to La Loge des Gardes was won by Tadej PogaÄar before David Gaudu and Gino Mäder. Tadej PogaÄar was leading the general classification.
Sure this was early March and Pogi broke his wrist at LBL in April but..
The riders and teams can say what they want but the Dauphiné is in realty just a prep race. If you lose in July nobody will care if you won a 1 week stage race in June. Its been this way since Armstrong's time.
Cookster15
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- May 14, 2011
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Assume you are referring to the 2022 and 2023 Tour. Today we are discussing because the Dauphiné is about to start and we get a sneak preview of their form head to head.
2023 Tour I generally agree. I think it was loss of preparation time that saw Pogacar collapse on Loze. The day before he emptied himself on the Combloux TT trying to minimize the gap to Vingegaard. He did not recover in time from that effort.
2022 Pogacar tried responding to attacks both Vingegaard and Roglic on Granon and blew - losing nearly 3 minutes. He never recovered the rest of that Tour. He spent huge energy trying to recover that lost time attacking every mountain - beginning on the Alpe the following day. Then WvA did that incredible ride on the Hautacam stage.
But 2024 Pogacar was a different beast. If that Pogacar turned up in 2022 and 2023 the data says Vingegaard couldn't beat him then.
On that 2023 P-N stage I linked Pogacar rode away from Vingegaard on the climb. Lots of people, me included, got excited prematurely. Yes, it can be put down to the point in the season. I think all it proves is Pogacar can maintain a high level for most of the season. Vingegaard has to peak to get to his best. Jonas will be at his best next month and I won't be reading much into who wins the Dauphiné.
- Mar 20, 2022
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Vingegaard is close to his peak in Dauphiné. Unfortunately for us, we don't have a great route here and Pogacar is the clear favorite.
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- Apr 13, 2025
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Vingegaard has won Daupinhé, and he didn't win another time because he let Roglic beat him.I won't be reading much into what happens. A reminder that this happened in 2023 and Pogi was still destroyed in July:-
Paris - Nice 2023 Stage 4 results
Paris - Nice 2023 Stage 4 from Saint-Amand-Montrond to La Loge des Gardes was won by Tadej PogaÄar before David Gaudu and Gino Mäder. Tadej PogaÄar was leading the general classification.
Sure this was early March and Pogi broke his wrist at LBL in April but..
The riders and teams can say what they want but the Dauphiné is in realty just a prep race. If you lose in July nobody will care if you won a 1 week stage race in June. Its been this way since Armstrong's time.
It's a preparatory race, but Vingegaard always arrives in great shape.
Without Pogacar Vingegaard wouldn´t have finished behind Gaudu in Paris-Nice, he would´ve won it like he won Itzulia, which was his next race, or like he won Tirreno the following year.
In any case, Vingegaard's results and performance at the Dauphiné speak for themselves. He always arrives in great shape before the Tour.
2023
| 1 | VINGEGAARD Jonas | Jumbo-Visma | 29:28:39 |
| 2 | YATES Adam | UAE Team Emirates | 2:23 |
2022.
He did what Froome did to Wiggins, he was stronger than Roglic in that Dauphiné but he respected the hierarchy.
| 1 | ROGLIC Primož | Jumbo-Visma | 29:11:22 |
| 2 | VINGEGAARD Jonas | Jumbo-Visma | 0:40 |
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