Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Relax, mate. Today the danger was there because multiple attacks are possible.
When the big stages arrive Pog needs one man with him for fueling and cooling and just follow Visma train.

Who will be that man?

 

[Kedjan]

Sivakov and Yates form better improve otherwize Pog could be isolated in the high mountains. Pog will probably be fine anyway but he will be more exposed.

If Pog had a strong leadout by Narvaez or A Yates today I doubt Vinge would have followed. Nice tactic by Visma to distance Narvaez and A Yates.

 

[Rou]

Who will be that man?

Yates will improve. He will be in the last selection.

 

[scribers]

I saw this finish as Visma promising GC gaps and Pogi sending a little message that if a gap happens its because he wants it to.

 

[fenns]

What happened after Remco attacked and Jonas/Pogi didn't react ? When my tv coverage went back to them Pogi and Jonas were back at the front.

The French are so stubborn in their covergae - why not have split screen when it's cear more than one interesting thing is happening

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm pretty sure he can drop Vingegaard but with this team? They really miss Almeida.

 

[Rou]

What happened after Remco attacked and Jonas/Pogi didn't react ? When my tv coverage went back to them Pogi and Jonas were back at the front.

Poor tv coverage all week. Today again.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yates said Sivakov is ill.

 

[Rou]

I'm pretty sure he can drop Vingegaard but with this team? They really miss Almeida.

Good prediction for Healy in yellow.
The good thing is that Pogi will most likely win on Hautacam in the world's jersey which is the most beautiful.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Good prediction for Healy in yellow.
The good thing is that Pogi will most likely win on Hautacam in the world's jersey which is the most beautiful.

I don't know. Stage 11 is very similar to stage 4

 

[Rou]

I don't know. Stage 11 is very similar to stage 4

Nah, Pog won't move there and Healy will be in yellow.

 

[pelotonIQ]

What happened after Remco attacked and Jonas/Pogi didn't react ? When my tv coverage went back to them Pogi and Jonas were back at the front.

Tadej and Jonas didn't react because they dont see him as a GC threat, I think Lipowitz closed him down.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Nah, Pog won't move there and Healy will be in yellow.

Probably. But when he went hard on stage 4, Vingegaard did a bad performance the day after (even if I believe that was not the reason but I can be wrong).

 

[rafa92]

if I were UAE i would focus exclusively on hautacam stage, that is the easiest to control and to set an attack for pog. After that I would stop completely to control the race, just mantain an easy pace and let visma do everything. Pog just needs one rider at the bottom of the last climb

 

[BubbaChuck]

remco confidance had to be shattered today,thye didnot even flinch and lipo closed him down in naosecond.ouch.

 

[Cycling111]

Worrying for Tadej that he couldn't even gap Jonas here. These climbs are Tadej's bread and butter. Good for him that he gained so much time on the TT, and will likely gain more on the mountain TT, so he doesn't have to ride aggressively in the high mountains.

He didn't have team to prepare the attack and although he did it easily, Pogacar came out 4 or 5 attacks from Jorgenson while Vingegaard dedicated to following the wheel.

 

[Rou]

Let me say this.
Even if Rabobank decides to nuke stage 12 and destroy Pog's leadout before Hautacam they will need to continue that on the final climb or else they will come back.
If they stop Yates or Narvaez comes back. And the harder paced stage benefits Pogacar.

 

[Kedjan]

if I were UAE i would focus exclusively on hautacam stage, that is the easiest to control and to set an attack for pog. After that I would stop completely to control the race, just mantain an easy pace and let visma do everything. Pog just needs one rider at the bottom of the last climb

Surely Visma won't let UAE control the stage and set up an attack by Pog. That would be just dumb.

Pog just need one rider at the bottom of the last climb? Who might that be? A Yates? Will he be fresh enough to set up a strong attack? And should Pog go from 10-12k out?

 

[Cycling111]

Surely Visma won't let UAE control the stage and set up an attack by Pog. That would be just dumb.

Pog just need one rider at the bottom of the last climb? Who might that be? A Yates? Will he be fresh enough to set up a strong attack? And should Pog go from 10-12k out?

Yates has no strength left to mount an attack. He was pathetic today except for one specific moment.

Pogacar has no one to launch the attack.

 

[Bombarolo]

Well managed stage. His improvements in how to manage these stages are absolutely clear. Didn’t waste any energy, always in the middle of the bunch in order to avoid the wind. Only responded to Jorgenson attacks with excellent timing in order to stay in his tow with again the goal of spending the least amount of energies as possible. Then tried a big attack in the end which wasn’t enough to drop Vingegaard who has been perfoming strongly.

 

[Lorzenz08]

I'm pretty sure he can drop Vingegaard but with this team? They really miss Almeida.

He will have to use a counter attack tactic with Vingegaard like in PdB

 

[Miha81]

Unfortunately he will be so isolated in real montain stages. This team looks very mediocre compared to TJV. He can still win but it will be a hard 11 days for him.

 

[Cycling111]

Yates will improve. He will be in the last selection.

I've been reading all year that Yates will get better.

The reality is that he's been looking bad for months, and today wasn't a different.

 

[AmRacer]

I've been reading all year that Yates will get better.

The reality is that he's been looking bad for months, and today wasn't a different.

He isn't really needed yet, just a little bit today. He'll be fine.

 

[Cycling111]

He isn't really needed yet, just a little bit today. He'll be fine.

I doubt he'll improve.

Pogacar won't have a pitcher in the high mountains. Visma, like in PDB, will have to prepare his attack. He has to take advantage of his leadership.

Sivakov has at least arrived. I was afraid he'd arrive out of time-control.
Let's hope he recovers, but he's another guy who wasn't performing well in the high mountains. Although it's always better to at least help than to be at home.