Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Vingo confirms in interview he could not follow Pogi at Dauphenie. Says his condition is better now, but it at least suggests we've seen one's ceiling and not Pogi's.
He could follow Pogi in the flatter stages. Once the mountains began, no.

So he is just trying to do mental games, all over, like Visma loves to do.

At the end of the day, he is 1'17" behind and only following Pogi's bike.
 
Pog lives in their heads without paying rent. I hope he blows them out of the universe on hautacam.
While I totally agree with you.. Lenny Martinez and his family tribute today possibly saved many from more mental anguish!!
Had Pogacar stayed on the gas, didn't slow down to take pace from Lenny he would have likely put another10-20 seconds into the trailing riders who he left in the dust!! Vingegaard is hyper concentrating on every Pog does!!
 
25 sec in Hautacam
More 1 minute in the MTT.

2 more wins. 4 in total.

Almost 3 minutes going to Superbagnères. I am ok with that.

Then, he just needs to follow the danish. That's it.

I don't think the MTT will produce big gaps: probably not more than 30 seconds between top2. The climb is too easy. I think Pogi will attack hard in the Pyrenees (Hautacam likely) but even now the GC situation means he just needs to follow Vingo.
 
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I don't think the MTT will produce big gaps: probably not more than 30 seconds between top2. The climb is too easy. I think Pogi will attack hard in the Pyrenees (Hautacam likely) but even now the GC situation means he just needs to follow Vingo.
He needs to go all out in Hautacam even with Vingegaard on his wheel. He cannot chase Matteo on Tourmalet or other big climb before the MTF
 
Imo uae shouldn't let any visma rider in the break in the hard mountain stages in that way they are negating a campanarts like yesterday. U could easily isolate pog 3 vs 1 like yesterday at the top of the penultimate climb that helps Jorgenson to reserve his energy until the last climb. It seems uae directors aren't learning anything from giro letting vanaert in break
 
Imo uae shouldn't let any visma rider in the break in the hard mountain stages in that way they are negating a campanarts like yesterday. U could easily isolate pog 3 vs 1 like yesterday at the top of the penultimate climb that helps Jorgenson to reserve his energy until the last climb. It seems uae directors aren't learning anything from giro letting vanaert in break
They don't have power to respond to Visma
 
The worrying thing for Pogacar is this.



Kuss has had a miserable two years, and yesterday he was better than Pogacar's best mountain domestique.

Simon hadn't won a GT in seven years and won the Giro, setting Finestre's record.

Visma has the ability to get all its riders to perform better than ever in GTs.
And Finestre's performance is a test for Loze. Just as Roglic's ITT in Lussari was a test for Vingegaard's ITT in Combloux.

That Kuss, who was the worst performer, finished better than Adam yesterday is very worrying, especially because Kuss worked more tan Adam yesterday.

With such a collective superiority, Pogacar has to be on Vingegaard's wheel. Vingegaard is the one who is forced to attack, and Pogacar must take advantage of that.
 
Visma here, Visma there....Kuss, Yates, WVA...yeah.
I suggest people to reseach what happened with Contador in the 2013 Tour and Giro 2015. Look at him, look at teams. Then make a conclusion.
Yes, and Pogacar won the 2020 Tour with a shitty team. But it's never good to be 4 vs 1 in a Tour.

I'd like to see Vingegard in that situation, rather than the comfort of always having teammates on the final climb and breakaways. It's mentally draining and depends on what the other team does.Pogacar will depend on Visma's pace to attack. Even though he's stronger, it's not a comfortable situation.
 
Contador clearly prefers Vingegaard. What cycling is my all time favorite seeing...


In the spring, Contador said Pogacar was the cyclist he likes the most. But it's clear they have the typical jealousy of a star who can't stand someone else winning more Tours and GT.

De Vlaeminck is always criticizing Van Der Poel or Pogacar when they add another Monument.
 
Yes. Like you saw, they were all cooked and WVA wasn't great. Unfortunately, Almeida was a key domestique and Sivakov is garbage right now.
They were all dropped in a medium mountain stage, including Yates.
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U could clearly hear wellens asking to close the break and his director which i dont think has a good iq tells him to let the break go. Its unbelievable at times seeing a team like uae having a big budget and still cant hire a good minds in the car
 
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U could clearly hear wellens asking to close the break and his director which i dont think has a good iq tells him to let the break go. Its unbelievable at times seeing a team like uae having a big budget and still cant hire a good minds in the car
The other problem is that they have great climbers on the team, but some can't go to the Tour because they don't want to be domestiques. Ayuso is the most obvious example, but they can't count with McNulty either.

Roglic sacrificed himself at Visma, and Simon will surely work harder than all the UAE's star domestiques these years.
 
The other problem is that they have great climbers on the team, but some can't go to the Tour because they don't want to be domestiques. Ayuso is the most obvious example, but they can't count with McNulty either.

Roglic sacrificed himself at Visma, and Simon will surely work harder than all the UAE's star domestiques these years.
I dont think pound for pound they are weaker to visma in the mountains. Narvaez and yates weren't dropped by any visma riders pace except jorgenson which u would think if almeida was in the race he would be there when jorgenson was pacing which also means both pog and jonas have 1 teammate left in the final of this stages so i think the teams are equal in terms of level but the pbm is visma has great minds in the car who could make a 3 vs 1 on top of a penultimate climb of a mountain while the other ones know nothing of what they're doing in the car