Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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You’re just repeating yourself.
The kind of tours or giros with multiple potential winners in their prime has been and gone.

Giros or vueltas now usually have one good rider, often not capable of winnng the tour.
In Merckx day the giros and vueltas were much stronger fields, not to mention the tour.'

We may as well just watch Vingo and Pog race round on their own, rest of the peloton is meaningless.
It's you repeating yourself.
 
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Quintana is a multiple GT winner and Pogacar is beating him in GTs.
Carapaz
Yates
Roglic
Vingegaard
Remco
Bernal
Besides Vingegaard the best riders there are not close to the best riders of Merckx’ time

There’s plenty of evidence that pou-pou, joop, Ocana or Gimondi would at least finish on the podium in today’s era.
Only Vingegaard , possibly Roglic when he was young could do the same in Merckx.
Much better strength in depth in those days
 
Besides Vingegaard the best riders there are not close to the best riders of Merckx’ time

There’s plenty of evidence that pou-pou, joop, Ocana or Gimondi would at least finish on the podium in today’s era.
Only Vingegaard , possibly Roglic when he was young could do the same in Merckx.
Much better strength in depth in those days
Again, you are changing your narrative. First Merckx was beating GT winners, now that I showed you Pogacar also beats GT winners, this argument doesn't matter anymore.
 
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Besides Vingegaard the best riders there are not close to the best riders of Merckx’ time

There’s plenty of evidence that pou-pou, joop, Ocana or Gimondi would at least finish on the podium in today’s era.
Only Vingegaard , possibly Roglic when he was young could do the same in Merckx.
Much better strength in depth in those days
Nope, the current peloton is much much stronger than it was before back in the days.
 
Besides Vingegaard the best riders there are not close to the best riders of Merckx’ time

There’s plenty of evidence that pou-pou, joop, Ocana or Gimondi would at least finish on the podium in today’s era.
Only Vingegaard , possibly Roglic when he was young could do the same in Merckx.
Much better strength in depth in those days
This is all just your subjective opinion. There are plenty of evidence you say, where are the evidence? How do you objectively decide this?
 
This is all just your subjective opinion. There are plenty of evidence you say, where are the evidence? How do you objectively decide this?
His post just reminds me this. I'm not calling him an idiot but his post was silly (again, I'm not calling him an idiot, I don't want a ban again).

The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” —Charles Bukowski​

 
In Eddys first giro win in 68 the rest of the top ten
*at the time* had 6 gt wins between them

In 70 it was 5
In 72 it was 6
In 73 it was 6
In 74 it was 7

Let’s look at the top ten of the last several giros in this era.
This year the rest of the top ten had 3 gt wins

In 24, it was 1
In 23 it was 1
In 22 it was 5
In 21 it was 1

I didn’t know it was that bad until I looked them up Pog needs 15 grand tours to overtake Eddy
 
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His post just reminds me this. I'm not calling him an idiot but his post was silly (again, I'm not calling him an idiot, I don't want a ban again).

The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” —Charles Bukowski​

Well you are implying it.
Look at the results , I’ve taken the time to put why I think this era is no stronger. Where are your statistics outside of the usual ‘pogs watts are unprecedented’
Again, that’s meaningless
The best way to compare eras is look at competition.
 
Nope, you did not. They all have been proven wrong multiple times, which you are ignoring.
What about the giro then ?
Giro was very strong from Coppi era all through the Merckx era.
It’s had some weak editions here and there just like the tour.
Pogs era is one of the weakest, and Pogs win is one of the weakest editions of that.

Merckx won 5 in one of the strongest giro eras.
Pog is miles behind Merckx , why can you not accept?
 
What about the giro then ?
Giro was very strong from Coppi era all through the Merckx era.
It’s had some weak editions here and there just like the tour.
Pogs era is one of the weakest, and Pogs win is one of the weakest editions of that.

won 5 in one of the strongest giro eras.
Pog is milMerckxes behind Merckx , why can you not accept?
Nope, this era is the strongest. Pogi is the GOAT and makes competition looks worse than they are. Merckx era was much weaker. Why can you not accept that?

And whataboutism doesn't work.
 
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In Eddys first giro win in 68 the rest of the top ten
*at the time* had 6 gt wins between them

In 70 it was 5
In 72 it was 6
In 73 it was 6
In 74 it was 7

Let’s look at the top ten of the last several giros in this era.
This year the rest of the top ten had 3 gt wins

In 24, it was 1
In 23 it was 1
In 22 it was 5
In 21 it was 1

I didn’t know it was that bad until I looked them up Pog needs 15 grand tours to overtake Eddy
Just looking to the Tour 2024.
Bernal
Vingegaard
Remco
Yates
Carapaz
Thomas
Roglic

7 GT winners (not in the top10)

You mentioned 7 GT winners in the top10 but a couple of them weren't GT winners when they finished top10 in the Giro 1974.
Moser
Battaglin

I just looked to this edition (Giro 1974) and you still came up with incorrect facts. There were only 6 GT winners but only 4 until that moment.