Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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Salvarani

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Strawberry_Jams said:
just for my own mind really, big races Pog hasn't won yet to complete cycling.

Vuelta a Espana

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I'm surprised at how many there are really. Few more years yet :rolleyes:
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Only MSR and Vuelta is important, when you sum up his career.

The others arent but nice to win if he does.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Yes, there are people asking him to give Lombardy to Del Toro :sweatsmile:

It seems like he's going to try to help him today. Asking for more is too much, especially since Del Toro has won enough and isn't someone in need for Pogacar to sacrifice a Monument.

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He will ride for Isaac today. Such a shame to be honest. I was cheering for him to reach 20 wins this season.
 
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Peyroteo94

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Strawberry_Jams said:
just for my own mind really, big races Pog hasn't won yet to complete cycling.

Vuelta a Espana

Basque Country
Romandie
Suisse

Omloop
Milan San-Remo
Milano-Torino
E3 Prijs
Dwars door Vlaanderen
San Sebastian
Bretagne
Quebec

I'm surprised at how many there are really. Few more years yet :rolleyes:
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Vuelta
PR
MSR
Olympic RR
Pais Vasco
Tour de Romandie
Tour de Suisse
 
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Peter von

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Strawberry_Jams said:
just for my own mind really, big races Pog hasn't won yet to complete cycling.

Vuelta a Espana

Basque Country
Romandie
Suisse

Omloop
Milan San-Remo
Milano-Torino
E3 Prijs
Dwars door Vlaanderen
Roubaix
San Sebastian
Bretagne
Quebec

I'm surprised at how many there are really. Few more years yet :rolleyes:
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one could argue that only PR and Olympics would move the needle on Pogi's Palmares. Which is absolutely bonkers
 
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Cycling111

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Peyroteo94 said:
He will ride for Isaac today. Such a shame to be honest. I was cheering for him to reach 20 wins this season.
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The most ironic thing is that Del Toro hasn't exactly been his best domestique. He's had plenty of opportunities this year .I'd understand better if he helped Majka , but it's clear Majka isn't going to win. I don't understand this need to help Del Toro, as if Del Toro had sacrificed his season to help Pogacar :rolleyes: .

It'll help calm all those people who are calling for him to gift a Monument. Next year they'll be asking for Del Toro be co-leader in the Tour :sweatsmile: .
 
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Cycling111 said:
The most ironic thing is that Del Toro hasn't exactly been his best domestique. He's had plenty of opportunities this year .I'd understand better if he helped Majka , but it's clear Majka isn't going to win. I don't understand this need to help Del Toro, as if Del Toro had sacrificed his season to help Pogacar :rolleyes: .

It'll help calm all those people who are calling for him to gift a Monument. Next year they'll be asking for Del Toro be co-leader in the Tour :sweatsmile: .
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Agreed. If Del Toro was racing against Pogacar, he would lose.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Jan Christen has been more domestique this year in FW than Del Toro. I don't see whyhe should give him a race. With Lombady they have lost all sense.
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I hope Pidcock is good enough to prevent an easy win for Del Toro. Maybe they will free Pogacar.
 
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It’s honestly no fun watching cycling anymore. In another thread they’re debating whether he made a jump in 2024. That’s the difference right there: in 2022-2023, Pogacar was the best all around rider in the world, winning all kinds of races all year but not always by huge margins (see Lombardia, etc)) and losing the Tour. In 2020-2021, he had moments of vulnerability in his Tour wins and lost some classics, some fairly badly. In 2024-2025, with the exception of P-R and WC ITT, he just rides away at will with seemingly zero effort. It’s just ludicrous.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Jan Christen has been more domestique this year in FW than Del Toro. I don't see whyhe should give him a race. With Lombady they have lost all sense.
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Christen and Del Toro have both been outstanding domestiques all year, they do everything asked of them and more. Today Del Toro rode outstanding, he literally coasted into the top 10 with an easy eighth.
Kept himself out of trouble. He enjoyed the chase buffer created by the best rider of all time. Isaac just sat in the draft as chase worked hard.
In many of these posts people act like there is parity between Pogacar and Del Toro. Ridiculous,
Del Toro is nowhere near the rider as Tadej, that's not a criticism, just reality, nobody is Pogacar's equal, established fact.
Del Toro will not be gifted Lombardi, he isn't scheduled to ride. He will race Piemonte.
Pogacar has won Lombardi every year since 2021..and if Del Toro has enough gas left he could ride support in Lombardi, but likely he will sit it out.
 
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Cycling111 said:
I think Pogacar tried to help Del Toro, but the Mexican didn't have the legs he'd had on other days.
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Del Toro still looked to be covering everything with zero difficulty. It looked to be more of an accidental solo today where he was in the front of the group on the descent and saw he had a gap without really pushing for it then decided it was worth continuing with.
 
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Mathieu van der Poel speaks about Pogacar in an interview. Big respect of one great towards another:

On comparison with Merckx:

It is really impressive, and it looks so easy. I have said it before, the new Merckx might not be the right comparison, because his name is Pogacar, but for us it must feel a bit like it did when Merckx was racing. On his terrain, Pogacar can do whatever he wants.

On San Remo and Roubaix victories:

That was on my terrain, and even then it was close. On his terrain I am no threat to him. It does give extra motivation to be ready again next spring. If you can follow Pogacar and beat him, you are close to victory
cyclinguptodate.com

"On his terrain, Pogacar can do whatever he wants" - Mathieu van der Poel on World Championships, van Aert, rest and Eddy Merckx comparisons

Mathieu van der Poel is perhaps the only rider in the pro peloton that managed to match and beat Tadej Pogacar in a race (two in this case: Milano-Sanremo and Paris-Roubaix) where the Slovenian put hi...
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Jan the Man said:
Possibly but it still increases the options for a variable outcome which should also benefit Pog.

At present it is difficult to conjure a scenario that Pog can beat a top MVP at MSR.

Adding more realistic protagonists like Remco will benefit all.
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I imagine WVA will be at MSR next year too.
 
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Eddy Evenepoel said:
I don’t think Duplantis is a good comparison even if his domination is similar or even bigger than Pogi.
The question about Duplantis .. whether he’s gonna set a new world record. With Pogacar it doesn’t make a difference .. there is nothing to compare with to create excitement..
A Duplantis jump lasts 30-45 seconds in the TV .. A Pogi solo ..lasts more than an hour...
Then I honestly think it’s a horrible comparison to say “Olympics are not in danger of dying because of Duplantis, on the contrary”, because the Olympics are not just one sport …
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Ah, yes. So the difference is not in terms of sport relevance but in TV impact, that is commercial. Yes, that is always the end goal. Even TDF was concieved as newspaper promotion. The Olympics weren't, but turned out just the same.
So, we need Pogi to stop winning so that big corporations can make more money. I'm sure if that were so, It could be arranged easily. I'm not sure TV and sponsors are the ones complaining, nor is it the "general non-sporting public".
It's THE FANS OF OTHER CYCLISTS, and more importantly, the fans of nations that "own cycling".
So, let me rephrase my question: why don't fans of other pole vaulters complain nonstop about Duplantis winning every time?
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
For the peleton there's already one Pogacar too many. Two Pogacars would be the ultimate nightmare.
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But if they ride against each other it would be an epic spectacle🤩 they will just attack each other but couldn't drop each other
 
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Strawberry_Jams said:
just for my own mind really, big races Pog hasn't won yet to complete Road cycling.

Vuelta a Espana

Basque Country
Romandie
Suisse

Omloop
Milan San-Remo
Milano-Torino
E3 Prijs
Dwars door Vlaanderen
Roubaix
San Sebastian
Bretagne
Quebec

I'm surprised at how many there are really. Few more years yet :rolleyes:
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Time we saw him try another discipline - we've seen Max Verstappen try GT3 racing away from F1, Pogi to do something different.
 
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