Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[Extinction]

I don't necessarily think any sport is "cleaner," but the over-the-top thermonuclear doping with veterinary medications is long gone except for the desperate. I think we're seeing a lot of sophisticated PED regimes that are undetectable except in the event of a real screw-up.

I'd bet there is a ton of doping in football (soccer). The contracts are so big that there's plenty of money to fund individual programs; the seasons are getting longer and the pressure to stay "match fit" is higher and higher. Any edge that will keep a player in the game longer is a huge benefit. Same with tennis.

To the subject of this thread: one thing that's interesting about Pog is that he can do different disciplines without taking away from others; i.e. winning Flanders but still dominating in the high mountains. That is an amazing natural adaptation ability, whatever else he may be doing.

They're taking drugs to keep ahead. And I've raced with Olympic level riders.

 

[Venge 82]

Pollitt LOL. Guess the whole team is on the heavy stuff

Was thinking exactly the same. And then you hear commentators on television going crazy about Politt. Do they have sh*t in their eyes or are they ret*rded?

 

[Rob5091]

Would it be new that it includes this forum?

Probably not. I can not give a definitive example (maybe a mod could) but just to spread doubt about claims of doping when an "out of the ordinary" sporting performance happens, is usually enough (new training methods! new bikes! new porridge to breakfast etc ).

 

[DrSahl]

I guess Pog did not hear what Armstrong had to tell him.
Ohh well.

 

[lenric]

 

[Monoxidator]

This is absolutely hilarious

 

[MartinGT]

Wow. All because Gel's have more carbs in them.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Sad for the future of the sport if people keep hyping him up.

 

[Divergence]

Sad for the future of the sport if people keep hyping him up.

And what, it is not sad to see the lanky non climber winning the stage?

 

[lenric]

Sad for the future of the sport if people keep hyping him up.

I hope he goes to the vuelta and smashes it after winning the olympics.

 

[Saint Unix]

And after winning the Giro by over 10 minutes

 

[DrSahl]

Wow. All because Gel's have more carbs in them.

I´ve heard Pog shared a steak with Contador before the tour.
Anyway.. if they don´t do anything against something this obvious, then I might take a long break like I did in the late Armstrong era.. no point in watching this, its unbelieable and boring.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

And what, it is not sad to see the lanky non climber winning the stage?

At least we have seen him be relatively conceivable compared to past riders. Pogi doesn’t fall under “conceivable”.

 

[Amazinmets87]

This guy just has to try the triple.

 

[Divergence]

At least we have seen him be relatively conceivable compared to past riders. Pogi doesn’t fall under “conceivable”.

Hah, this coming from a vlab fan... I hope he crushes all the hopes and dreams of your team, the shoe is on the other foot now.

 

[nilfen]

A state-sponsored team taking the piss on all of us - are we not entertained!

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

Hah, this coming from a vlab fan... I hope he crushes all the hopes and dreams of your team, the shoe is on the other foot now.

I’m not saying he’s clean, I’m saying Jonas is at least more conceivable of a clean rider because we’ve seen guys like him win the Tour before. Pogacar build riders haven’t really.

 

[Monoxidator]

At least we have seen him be relatively conceivable compared to past riders. Pogi doesn’t fall under “conceivable”.

What are you talking about, according to the fanboys, we are privileged to witness the greatest cyclist of all time and a once in a lifetime talent. He just happens to have come along right when a new doping regiment was invented. It’s not his fault.

 

[DrSahl]

No mercy for Jorgenson.

Pog did not only go full nuclear on Vinge and Remco, but he had to just reach Jorgenson and look at him like "did you really think you had a chance" then saddly up in his bike and speed away.... vroom vroom.

 

[Divergence]

What a sight... the guy is angry

 

[Martinstranger]

No mercy for Jorgenson.

Pog did not only go full nuclear on Vinge and Remco, but he had to just reach Jorgenson and look at him like "did you really think you had a chance" then saddly up in his bike and speed away.... vroom vroom.

It's just a little training ride - he has been listening to Lance and knows he cannot take another 3 minutes.

 

[proffate]

I was a Pog fan until this tour ☹️

 

[noob]

A state-sponsored team taking the piss on all of us - are we not entertained!

I await the Chinese revenge

 

[Blanco]

Gianetti went way over the line this year with this guy.

 

[lenric]