Hopefully no motor doping involved...then it would be motorsport and Marquez & co are way better than him.
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Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, fool me three hundredth….
He has done it again.
"wErE nOt iN tHe PaSt aNy mOre"
He has done it again.
Foliforov is a perfect example of motordoping!
Its for sure been going on for 15 years at this point
Here is my post thats nearly 3 years old with prime video examples.
Of course motor doping is in use, it was even in use back in 2010 with cancellara and breschel, breschel who was fuming after flanders since he got the wrong spare bike, the same race where cancellara litteraly motored away from boonen (go figure). Also Sky was notorius for motor usage, just watch Poels here motoring away up the Angliru lol.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEsH8F1Hvns
Also 2013, especially with Froome up ventoux with the leaked watt files, its clear as day he is using a motor, you can also see it from the spectators view its so stupid.
Foliforovs famous tt in the giro, also ebike.
Roglic had motor in the bike at Strade Bianche a few years back as the infrared spectator cam found out.
Now many top teams have it, you have to adapt or die out, as such sky/ineos dominance is more or less over as other teams have leveled the playing field.
Lets face it UCI has no interest in catching any of these guys, as with the useless ipad scam app. Spectators should set up ir cams during mountain stages on the roadside, i would guarante the bikes would glow. You would have to be emotionaly invested to belive otherwise.
Do any Pog fans actually think he's clean? I'm referring to the main forums here and the rest of the internet. Because I don't mind if someone just enjoys the show and has a laugh about the absurdity of the performances. fair enough, c'est un 'entertainment', after all. But if there's actually people out there who think this guy is riding around cleanz because he cares for his health or something and only other riders dope... oh boy.
This. As I've been trying to argue since this year's TDF: always look for the most technically feasible explanation, and look for the totality of evidence which in our case constitutes a season long string of "extraterrestrial" performances on all terrains with literally no sweat and a goofy smile on the face.
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He has done it again.
seeing this guy hug Pogacar after he wins and try to be part of the glory is the most sickening thing about all of this.
My mom is largely in the bucket of people that thinks he’s doping but largely has fun watching him, and I would consider her a pretty “normal” casual fan. But she has also started to go down a similar trajectory of getting sick of it ever since the Tour this year. So hopefully that’s a good sign.
[[content deleted]] people thinking just like this may well be what they are counting upon.
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Yes, it's also true for almost any cyclist at his peak vs his 19 yo version though.
Well, not me. And I think we can discount anyone in the media, they are never going to openly accuse him of doping, or worse motor doping.
It’s not a primary argument for me but you can’t deny the transformation was rapid from 2018 to all the sudden winning 3 GT stages and being a top name in the peloton the year he moved to UAE. And if he’s that good at 20 then why not 19?
Exactly. The line is blurred at that young age. Froome was 26 when he "appeared". Vingo 24. Pog only 19-20 years old. You can't predict Tour de France winners at below 18. You can predict they will be good, but not how good. There is no science that can predict that with accuracy.
If we compare Pogacar 2023 to Pogacar 2024, he is 100% out of nowhere.
So how did Gianetti know he was a super responder back then? Luck? Even so this takes more than super responding.
There must be an Armstrong factor (look the other way), else, I fear motors. He looks so fresh. Even if motors there must be some kind of corruption involved as I assume his bike would need to be checked. I refuse to believe you can hide a motor from a trained mechanic who knows what to look for - even magnetic assistance. And the relaxed confidence from Pog suggests he isn't worried about being caught.
I remember the days when Pogacar couldn’t outright solo to the win in zone 2 at Il Lombardia and had to sprint against Masnada.
The 2025 Tour route has yet to be announced. Perhaps they won't have an AdH stage to avoid embarrassment. If someone like Vingegaard attacked near the bottom then I fear what Pogacar would do to Marco's record. I never thought this before PdB in the Tour.
I think Pog is doing other dopers a huge favor. Nothing they do will ever be as absurd as his 2024 season. He's allowing so many riders to fly under the radar it's not even funny.
Motors is really something that would make me stop watching the sport. This is not even cycling anymore, the idea of moving using the power of your own engine... As for UAE, they surely made a series of tests on Teddy before he joined. They measured his current VO2max, anaerobic threshold, assessed how much weight he can lose with a better training and what are his blood values etc.
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I disagree. He crushed everyone last season aswell all up untill he broke his wrist, everyone from flandern to PN very handy aswell I must say including MvdP and Vingegaard very handy. Hardly a good nor fair point to judge from when he had and rode with a broken wrist if were beeing objective i mean. And not news for people.
And he won the Tour at age 20, if Pogacar came out of nowhere who won the tour at 20 I dont know what to say. Sure if we go back to when he was 15/16 he came out of nowhere but again hardly a very fair measurement stick. Lets stick to beeing relevant at least😅.
But how did Pogacar come to UAE's attention in the first place?
Exactly. It's been just like that all year. So he either has 100+ (big plus) VO2 max or his means of propulsion is of some other nature than purely biological.
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