Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[noob]

It's weird I had not put two and two together as it's so logically easy; the reason UAE are tactically a disaster is of course because they prefer to solve every problem clinically.

If I am completely cynical for a moment...

... suddenly I'm not convinced cycling would die if UAE or Pog would be found guilty. Because they're from UAE. It's not the same kind of blow like Armstrong. UAE isn't from the west, but cycling and its fans are. UAE could be the perfect political scapegoat.

 

[topt]

and he he he, the only explenation is doping; just wonder what will you claim when Carapaz burns him again on heavy long climb..... eh...

 

[Stablo]

and he he he, the only explenation is doping; just wonder what will you claim when Carapaz burns him again on heavy long climb..... eh...

So what? I would cheer for it all the way. Not because I think Richie is clean, but it's about time other teams start catching up with the Vampires monsters. UCI is clearly not going to bust them, so others making the field more equal is sadly the only chance we got for good racing. Also I won't be very suprised, if Del Toro all the sudden puts P.Torres 2024 level climbing on Finestre. Vroom vroom.

Edit. Autocorrect typo

 

[Notarobot]

Another motorized performance by a UAE rider. That acceleration ha ha ha

 

[Rackham]

Another motorized performance by a UAE rider. That acceleration ha ha ha

Bardet said Del Toro was cornering like a 'criminal' in the final km's (he meant that as like... 'incredible, unbelievable'). https://www.leparisien.fr/sports/cy...iro-28-05-2025-VMCNAIMMRJA5TNNQLQCFEDGPZE.php

Now imagine if it's because he was actually riding a motorbike and had better traction out of corners because of it. It makes you think.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Imo the big elephant in the room is corruption/the Uci being payed off. A state sponsored team and the Uci has finalcial ties with said state (e-cycling wc and so on).

 

[Gianetti_Is_The_Goat]

Excluding bunch sprints, these are the results of Gianetti's boy this season:
3
1
1
1
3
1
2
2
1
1
1

All World Tour...
Draw your own conclusions.

 

[Stablo]

Excluding bunch sprints, these are the results of Gianetti's boy this season:
3
1
1
1
3
1
2
2
1
1
1

All World Tour...
Draw your own conclusions.

It is ridicilous. Next week this thread is getting active again🥰i am even expecting some sort of ridicilous nosebreathing seated e-attacks ala FW, PR, Liege. And then the blind/naive fanboys will also arrive to say his just so tallented🤡lmao

 

[AmRacer]

So, Pogi won over his two main opponents, Jonas and Mathieu.

 

[Stablo]

Oh I was wrong we didn't even have to wait for the next week 🤡🤌

 

[pelotonIQ]

So, Pogi won over his two main opponents, Jonas and Mathieu.

These people are so obvious, whenever an UAE rider wins, no matter who it is, they will cry doping. When Toro recovered after a bad day, they flocked to call him a doper. The dead giveaway is that when Vingegaard beat the so called ''doper'' in back to back Tours these guys were nowhere to be seen on this forum.

 

[ashhutch1997]

These people are so obvious, whenever an UAE rider wins, no matter who it is, they will cry doping. When Toro recovered after a bad day, they flocked to call him a doper. The dead giveaway is that when Vingegaard beat the so called ''doper'' in back to back Tours these guys were nowhere to be seen on this forum.

Mate, on the day of the Combloux ITT the clinic went absolutely bonkers. Was one of the most iconic days on the clinic.

 

[ashhutch1997]

It is ridicilous. Next week this thread is getting active again🥰i am even expecting some sort of ridicilous nosebreathing seated e-attacks ala FW, PR, Liege. And then the blind/naive fanboys will also arrive to say his just so tallented🤡lmao

'We are just lucky to be whitenessing greatness'.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Mate, on the day of the Combloux ITT the clinic went absolutely bonkers. Was one of the most iconic days on the clinic.

I know I was there, I'm talking about these specific guys that only show up to cry about doping whenever it's an UAE rider.

 

[Gianetti_Is_The_Goat]

These people are so obvious, whenever an UAE rider wins, no matter who it is, they will cry doping. When Toro recovered after a bad day, they flocked to call him a doper. The dead giveaway is that when Vingegaard beat the so called ''doper'' in back to back Tours these guys were nowhere to be seen on this forum.

Not at all. I've only called out Pogacar, although Del Toro has become suspicious as well. Coincidentally, the only 21 year olds dominating a GT in the past decade, were riders for the most fraudulent duo Gianetti and Matxin who never played fair ever.

Nobody claimed here that Vingegaard is clean. If you want to focus on Vingegaard or Visma, feel free to do so.

Edit: It's highly unlikely that Vingegaard would have won the TdF 2022 without WVA and Roglic. In TdF 2023, Pogacar started with an injury and Visma had to ride like madmen for two weeks to crack him once.

 

[Gianetti_Is_The_Goat]

I know I was there, I'm talking about these specific guys that only show up to cry about doping whenever it's an UAE rider.

If Vingegaard starts dominating single day races all year round, I'll focus on him as well.

 

[Stablo]

These people are so obvious, whenever an UAE rider wins, no matter who it is, they will cry doping. When Toro recovered after a bad day, they flocked to call him a doper. The dead giveaway is that when Vingegaard beat the so called ''doper'' in back to back Tours these guys were nowhere to be seen on this forum.

No one has said Vinge is clean either🤡but the UAE with Poggie is just Ricardo Ricco 2.0 and the mastermind behind it is the same, only now with better funding.

 

[Stablo]

If Vingegaard starts dominating single day races all year round, I'll focus on him as well.

This 100%, but the fanboys will never get the point💉🤡only the but but but hey and the big picture doesn't open up 🤷‍♂️

 

[Stablo]

I know I was there, I'm talking about these specific guys that only show up to cry about doping whenever it's an UAE rider.

If I would have been active in this forum during Lance, Froomie etc. times i would have "cried" here also. Blatantly obvious is the same no matter the time we live in.

 

[Stablo]

I know I was there, I'm talking about these specific guys that only show up to cry about doping whenever it's an UAE rider.

And btw. honestly you dont have any clue why it is so? That UAE with the management is just a bit on the shady side? I am speechless.

 

[Gianetti_Is_The_Goat]

If I would have been active in this forum during Lance, Froomie etc. times i would have "cried" here also. Blatantly obvious is the same no matter the time we live in.

There's no comparison. These guys won next to nothing except their GTs. In the specialist era, we've never seen this.

 

[Stablo]

There's no comparison. These guys won next to nothing except their GTs. In the specialist era, we've never seen this.

This is also very true. It was not this bad, been a fan of the sport since the second half of the 90s and never seen anything like this. And then the tiktok-generation buys it at face value. omg.

 

[pelotonIQ]

Not at all. I've only called out Pogacar, although Del Toro has become suspicious as well. Coincidentally, the only 21 year olds dominating a GT in the past decade, were riders for the most fraudulent duo Gianetti and Matxin who never played fair ever.

Nobody claimed here that Vingegaard is clean. If you want to focus on Vingegaard or Visma, feel free to do so.

The mask has slipped. If that is the case then you don't truly care about doping and only use it as a screen to only discredit UAE riders no matter who it is. What about Grischa Niermann in Visma who is an admitted doper?

If Vingegaard starts dominating single day races all year round, I'll focus on him as well.

So you're saying that you're ok with doping as long the rider doesn't win every race? Vingegaard beat the guy you're 100% sure is doping in back to back Tours

 

[ashhutch1997]

If I would have been active in this forum during Lance, Froomie etc. times i would have "cried" here also. Blatantly obvious is the same no matter the time we live in.

You cant compare Armstrong/Froome to Pogacar. They were literally in top form for one race per year, not dominating every race all year.

 

[ashhutch1997]

So you're saying that you're ok with doping as long the rider doesn't win every race? Vingegaard beat the guy you're 100% sure is doping in back to back Tours

The problem is Pogacar is making it so blatant and completely taking the piss. The guy hasn't had an off day for the past two years. At least Vingegaard is only in top form once a year.