Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[E_F_]

Moto malfunctioning last Saturday.

You don't think his attack on the Cipressa was strange? No one is saying he's using a massively strong motor, and can just ride away from anyone, anytime, anywhere. There's no reason to rule out the motor just not being strong enough at some points.

 

[AmRacer]

You don't think his attack on the Cipressa was strange? No one is saying he's using a massively strong motor, and can just ride away from anyone, anytime, anywhere. There's no reason to rule out the motor just not being strong enough at some points.

Or the other guy had a better motor 🤷

 

[E_F_]

Or the other guy had a better motor 🤷

Or he was just better suited to the route and equally doped to the gills.

 

[peterfin]

You don't think his attack on the Cipressa was strange? No one is saying he's using a massively strong motor, and can just ride away from anyone, anytime, anywhere. There's no reason to rule out the motor just not being strong enough at some points.

I think the climbs were simply not steep enough. A motor advantage is more pronounced with steeper climbs where drafting is much less an advantage to the follower. Also, I had the impression he put a lot if energy in the attacks and in going all out on the flat. Battery depletion may become an issue as well. in any, case you did need a MVDP being at 100% or it was another Pogi show.

 

[Divergence]

Right there. That should now settle the issue for good. And not just that. According to his coaches, he is also now doing interval training (can you imagine!) and eating porridge with pancakes for carb sources. That surely should give him a huge advantage on top of that sci-fi scale talent.

Yeah, there is that. "A few seconds" as in "the whole season non-stop" of no-sweat smiling moto-speed performances. Also "someone" as in the "the namesake of this very thread".

Of course I am very skeptical regarding Pog's performances. But, what you write is neither an argument nor evidence for anything. And that is my problem. It is all zero evidence speculation. Which is quite different to what was happening in the 90s.

 

[E_F_]

Of course I am very skeptical regarding Pog's performances. But, what you write is neither an argument nor evidence for anything. And that is my problem. It is all zero evidence speculation. Which is quite different to what was happening in the 90s.

Well there's zero evidence for biological doping as well. Is that not happening? Unlike @Casual cyclist I am not convinced, but I don't see the issue in "zero evidence speculation" when there is zero evidence, but it's obvious that something is going on.

 

[Cookster15]

Well there's zero evidence for biological doping as well.

Please clarify. EPO and transfusions are biological doping. Even autologous blood doping has been snared by the ABP based upon clear evidence.

 

[Froome]

Monoxide carbon and the marine worm.

 

[E_F_]

Please clarify. EPO and transfusions are biological doping. Even autologous blood doping has been snared by the ABP based upon clear evidence.

I thought we were talking about suspecting that motor doping is being done by top riders, and Pogacar in particular, not about knowing whether it has been done by top riders (or indeed at all).

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Monoxide carbon and the marine worm.

The latter fits your fishy fave more.

 

[Froome]

The latter fits your fishy fave more.

I hope he uses it in the next months.