Tadej Pogacar and Mauro Giannetti

[E_F_]

Moto malfunctioning last Saturday.

You don't think his attack on the Cipressa was strange? No one is saying he's using a massively strong motor, and can just ride away from anyone, anytime, anywhere. There's no reason to rule out the motor just not being strong enough at some points.

 

[AmRacer]

You don't think his attack on the Cipressa was strange? No one is saying he's using a massively strong motor, and can just ride away from anyone, anytime, anywhere. There's no reason to rule out the motor just not being strong enough at some points.

Or the other guy had a better motor 🤷

 

[E_F_]

Or the other guy had a better motor 🤷

Or he was just better suited to the route and equally doped to the gills.

 

[peterfin]

You don't think his attack on the Cipressa was strange? No one is saying he's using a massively strong motor, and can just ride away from anyone, anytime, anywhere. There's no reason to rule out the motor just not being strong enough at some points.

I think the climbs were simply not steep enough. A motor advantage is more pronounced with steeper climbs where drafting is much less an advantage to the follower. Also, I had the impression he put a lot if energy in the attacks and in going all out on the flat. Battery depletion may become an issue as well. in any, case you did need a MVDP being at 100% or it was another Pogi show.

 

[Divergence]

Right there. That should now settle the issue for good. And not just that. According to his coaches, he is also now doing interval training (can you imagine!) and eating porridge with pancakes for carb sources. That surely should give him a huge advantage on top of that sci-fi scale talent.

Yeah, there is that. "A few seconds" as in "the whole season non-stop" of no-sweat smiling moto-speed performances. Also "someone" as in the "the namesake of this very thread".

Of course I am very skeptical regarding Pog's performances. But, what you write is neither an argument nor evidence for anything. And that is my problem. It is all zero evidence speculation. Which is quite different to what was happening in the 90s.

 

[E_F_]

Of course I am very skeptical regarding Pog's performances. But, what you write is neither an argument nor evidence for anything. And that is my problem. It is all zero evidence speculation. Which is quite different to what was happening in the 90s.

Well there's zero evidence for biological doping as well. Is that not happening? Unlike @Casual cyclist I am not convinced, but I don't see the issue in "zero evidence speculation" when there is zero evidence, but it's obvious that something is going on.

 

[Cookster15]

Well there's zero evidence for biological doping as well.

Please clarify. EPO and transfusions are biological doping. Even autologous blood doping has been snared by the ABP based upon clear evidence.

 

[Froome]

Monoxide carbon and the marine worm.

 

[E_F_]

Please clarify. EPO and transfusions are biological doping. Even autologous blood doping has been snared by the ABP based upon clear evidence.

I thought we were talking about suspecting that motor doping is being done by top riders, and Pogacar in particular, not about knowing whether it has been done by top riders (or indeed at all).

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Monoxide carbon and the marine worm.

The latter fits your fishy fave more.

 

[Froome]

The latter fits your fishy fave more.

I hope he uses it in the next months.

 

[Stablo]

Monoxide carbon and the marine worm.

This would make sense for the monster machine. The link in the other thread said that the molecyles developed from the marine worm can carry 40x more oxygen compared to hemoglobin and are also tenth in the size. Would explain the effortless performances, basically never getting tired all season long, breaking EPO-era records and making monster long attacks looking like on a Sunday ride. If you're muscles aren't really running out of oxygen and you can push the lactate treshold a lot further, well it would be looking like Poggie on the monster efforts demolishing everyone on all terrains like it happened last year. Also UAE:s unlimited resources and Gianetti&Co, would make having this kind of cutting edge advantage in peds possible.
The link is here if you missed it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903953123451822289

View: https://x.com/Hemarina/status/1903953123451822289?s=19


P.S. Don't come telling, well hey he just lost to MDVP😉His not clean either, but a rider like MDVP dominating the classics is still way more beliavable, than Poggie doing the things his been doing. He has an edge on peds currently, otherwise he wouldn't be pulling of seasons like especially 2024 was.

 

[E_F_]

This would make sense for the monster machine. The link in the other thread said that the molecyles developed from the marine worm can carry 40x more oxygen compared to hemoglobin and are also tenth in the size. Would explain the effortless performances, basically never getting tired all season long, breaking EPO-era records and making monster long attacks looking like on a Sunday ride. If you're muscles aren't really running out of oxygen and you can push the lactate treshold a lot further, well it would be looking like Poggie on the monster efforts demolishing everyone on all terrains like it happened last year. Also UAE:s unlimited resources and Gianetti&Co, would make having this kind of cutting edge advantage in peds possible.
The link is here if you missed it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903953123451822289

View: https://x.com/Hemarina/status/1903953123451822289?s=19


P.S. Don't come telling, well hey he just lost to MDVP😉His not clean either, but a rider like MDVP dominating the classics is still way more beliavable, than Poggie doing the things his been doing. He has an edge on peds currently, otherwise he wouldn't be pulling of seasons like especially 2024 was.

Idunno, I have a hard time seeing a company using such broken English and terrible AI images, with such an insane profile picture, has somehow invented a new way for human blood to carry oxygen.

 

[Stablo]

Yeah don't actually believe that certain news fully either, too much disinformation going on these days. But after a few cold ones on a friday night, something like that connected to the oxygen carrying capabilities of blood would make totally sense. EPO 2.0 that only a few selected has a reach and means achieving to. Not ruling out the sophisticated motor theory either, but looking at Poggies rise and results, something like that would be the thing that team UAE&Gianetti could achieve and reach the full potential of it, taking an advantage over the competition.

My reasoning always comes from the fact, that yes Poggie is talented, but in no universe he was/is this talented and so much above the others. It started before last season already, but 24 was the WTF icing on the cake. Im so sure of this, that i would basically bet anything to the fact that the advantage is not natural. Period.

 

[Casual cyclist]

This would make sense for the monster machine. The link in the other thread said that the molecyles developed from the marine worm can carry 40x more oxygen compared to hemoglobin and are also tenth in the size. Would explain the effortless performances, basically never getting tired all season long, breaking EPO-era records and making monster long attacks looking like on a Sunday ride. If you're muscles aren't really running out of oxygen and you can push the lactate treshold a lot further, well it would be looking like Poggie on the monster efforts demolishing everyone on all terrains like it happened last year. Also UAE:s unlimited resources and Gianetti&Co, would make having this kind of cutting edge advantage in peds possible.
The link is here if you missed it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1903953123451822289

View: https://x.com/Hemarina/status/1903953123451822289?s=19


P.S. Don't come telling, well hey he just lost to MDVP😉His not clean either, but a rider like MDVP dominating the classics is still way more beliavable, than Poggie doing the things his been doing. He has an edge on peds currently, otherwise he wouldn't be pulling of seasons like especially 2024 was.

If that is indeed the case, we should witness endurance records fall left and right pretty soon. Something along the lines of 10k run record improved by minutes, not seconds. I guess we can wait a year or two until this marine worm wonder potion trickles down from the mighty gang of the sheikh.